Saw Star Trek: Nemesis last night. Any questions? *SPOILERS* (probably)

Thanks a lot for the personal insult.

You assume Picard was just going to shoot the thing and blow up with it, rather than try to disarm it. Why? He had plenty of time to turn it off, change where it was aiming, whatever. There is nothing on the screen, nor in the screenplay, that indicates that Picard is going over there to die.

Really? And where did Picard say “I’m going to go over there and shoot the swirly green energy thing!”?

Data had no choice but to go for broke because shooting it was about all you could do in three seconds. Picard, if he hadn’t just stood there like an imbecile, could have tried something different, more “subtle,” and less destructive.

I could swear that the main Reman sounded like Vin Diesel. It would have been a better movie if an armor clad voyager or defiant had came to the rescue.

Sdrawkcab, I sincerely apologize. The last thing I wanted to do was insult you personally.

Janeway lives!

Since a photon torpedo is a matter/antimatter warhead, I doubt it. I understand that replicating antimatter is a no-no.

A few other nits:

  1. “We have the same eyes, the same heart…” Um, no you don’t… you have an artificial heart! (Picky, picky, picky…)

  2. How can something “disrupt organic tissue at the subatomic level”? It seems to me that at the subatomic level, or even the atomic level, it’s not organic tissue anymore… just carbon and whatnot. Organicity begins with molecules.

and… there was another major one that I don’t recall at the instant.

Be that as it may, I enjoyed this outing and I don’t quite grasp the excoriations it’s receiving. I certainly don’t think it was the best… rather put it around the low half of the even numbers… but still even-numbered.

No assumption, when Picard went to where the beam was, he reached for his weapon which we had been knocked away in an earlier scene. The shot of his weapon on the floor was the setup for when he got to the beam and couldn’t fire on it the way that data did. He was prepared to take his own life to save that of his crew, i.e. the needs of the many out weigh those of the few.

Or the one.

You know, this isn’t the first time that Data tried to sacrifice himself and Picard turned him down. Remember in Generations Data wanted to be traded for Geordi. There’s no telling how long Data’s been begging the Captain to let himself get killed.

Damn! Did he somehow get his programming crossed with that of Marvin the Paranoid android?

Picard: Mr. Data, do you detect any life signs on that planet?

Data: Life, don’t talk to me about life.

I just… love scanning for lifeforms. Life… forms… You precious little life… forms… You tiny little life… forms… Where are you? Beep beep beep

Ah, one of the high points of the whole series, IMO. :slight_smile:

Did anyone think that the ARGO jeep-drop ship looked like the starfighter from Buck Rogers in the 25th century?

Why the hell didn’t the E-E have batmobile armor and super-duper torpedoes from Voyager?

For that matter, why haven’t they figured out transwarp/quantum slipstream drive?

The only worse Trek movie than this one was ST5… and even that had the small value of the Yosemite scenes. Also, Data’s death had absolutly no emotional impact. It could have been done much better.

…Because the Magic Reset Button ™ was glaringly obvious. “Data’s dead. No, he’s retarded!” It’s like they stole the endings to ST2 and ST3 and crammed them in the same movie.

If Data bought the farm because “he can’t get wrinkled or fat”, won’t Brent Spiner play the replacement?

Janeway is probably in charge of that. So the blueprints probably got lost in the Delta Quadrent again…

Just saw it today and quickly scanned all these posts, so I’m not sure if anyone mentioned this: Doesn’t Riker mention a “something-Kirk-Epsilon” maneuver on the bridge? I swear I heard Kirk’s name.

I’m with the few, the proud, the ones who actually enjoyed this flick. Then again, I rarely pick apart movies or worry overmuch about their verisimilitude, especially with science fiction and fantasy. All I really ask of a movie is that it entertain me, and this one did.

Plus I can never get enough of Jean-Luc, and I liked all the “nature vs. nurture” stuff where we see him question who he might have become had he suffered severe deprevation and abuse. It’s an interesting question for any of us… and a timeless one with no easy answer: how much of who we are is genetic, and how much do our experiences shape us?

Why did Picard just sit there with a stupid look on his face saying nothing after his clone died? And why did Data not say a word when he beamed Picard back to the Enterprise and blew himself up? That moment carried incredible emotional weight, and they chose to have everybody stay mute. What a shame.

You did.

“Attack manuever Kirk epsilon!”

As opposed to,

“Run away manuever Archer my ass!”

I think it was a defensive maneuver, though I could be wrong. I found it dubious that Kirk would have five defensive maneuvers named after him.