Boobs, bombs, and Bilbo. In that order.
Oh, and I forgot farting. Maybe file that under bombs.
Can’t wait to hear your enlightened opinion on the Dutch, German, and Russian stance in this matter.
They’re not with you, so they must be against you. :rolleyes:
That stupid phrase needs to die, quickly. It’s utterly moronic even for a 5 year old in the playground, let alone the leader of the most powerful democracy in the world.
A fine group of people who generally supported us in the past.
If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.
The Russians supported the US in the past?
And yet another phrase that needs to die. Do you live your entire life on oneliners?
I just flew in from Marseille and – BOY, are my arms tired.
Yes and they continue to do so, ever hear of the ISS, although they didn’t like when we called it alpha one. I make a distinction between the USSR and Russia.
Are you against one liners? And actually no, I do very few and far between one liners, this one just felt appropiate.
For the last year or so, the only people I’ve heard saying it are people bitching about it being said a couple of months after 9/11/2001. If you want the phrase to die, take the first step.
Well, sure. I didn’t come up with it in this thread, as you can see.
This is easily the stupidest sentence I’ve ever read.
What about “If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate”?
Though I suppose you could bubble out as well…
or the beaker
Kind of speaks for itself:
Can this be characterized as anything but the words of an arrogant, patronizing bully with no qualms about abusing his power in order to put down dissent among the wogs?
Chirac was really out of line with that move.
Miller, I can take jokes about my own people when I can read the intent about them. I don’t find all of them automatically funny, nor automatically offensive. It is all about intent.
the remarks were a pile on on the French. I think there has been way too much of it recently and it has to be dealt with.
Chirac has yet again proven himself to be a total and utter fucking dick. Remember, though, that he got in to power this time round for the sole reason that he was the only half-viable alternative to Jean-Marie Le Pen.
Nope. The post you were replying to and your own are pertuating the silly idea that not shaving underarms is unhygienic, while it’s only an arbitrary social norm. If it was really an hygiene issue :
1)All men would have their underarms shaved…
2)Women and men alike would all shave their private parts too…
Hey nobody said Rumsfeld had a monopoly.
point taken.
I can’t recall Rumsfeld ever abusing his position to make threats against countries that don’t agree with him, hinting that he’ll wield vindictively a power that he doesn’t really have. He’s spoken forcefully about what we’ll do to our enemies, of course, but after all that is his job–and no one questions whether he’s got the power.
I freely admit that my initial reaction, weeks ago, to France’s perceived opposition was “What the hell?”
But upon looking deeper into the issues over these many weeks, I really don’t feel that France is “betraying” the US in any manner, nor that they are being unwise or irrational, or that they are not our ally from an overall standpoint. And I think efforts to characterize the French people, culture, and the nation itself in the very negative light in which some are doing so is profoundly wrong.
I don’t think France is deserving of scorn for their position on Iraq. Someone mentioned earlier about having allies that were brave enough to stand up to the US when they thought the US was incorrect, and that’s a very good point. France has stood by the US on many other occasions in the past, and will certainly do so again in the future. Iraq, as important as it may seem, is one issue of thousands. The US does not need a bunch of “yes men” countries; we need countries that tell us like it is, and play straight with us. And if France feels honestly that it is not in their national interest to have a war with Iraq, OR that they simply feel the US is wrong, well, they should tell us so.
I would be much more concerned about French actions with respect to their relations with agriculture and England and the US, and with things like the Ira Einhorn “sudden French citizenship”, than I would be about Iraq. But even still, those are just a few little other issues of disagreement. I mean, good grief - you can’t expect even best friends to agree on everything, can you? Think of all the ways in which the US and France support and help and assist each other, and how close our cultures really are, rather than picking on a few differences.
The French are not a people of “cheese, wine, snooty waiters, and the Eiffel Tower”. They are a people - human beings together, organized as a Nation - with a colourful and full history, a profoundly rich current culture, and hopefully a good future as well. They are people with hopes, dreams, fears, loves, and hates, like everyone else. They are very close to us in so many ways, that these disagreements are just sad.
France, do what you feel is right. Just do it because you DO feel it is right.
(However, I am very disappointed that the early snide rolleyes of cowgirl on the 1st page here towards Americans was uniformly ignored by everyone. I do not feel that was constructive or proper.)