Screw Muslim and Arab sensitivity

Are you truly this stupid? Ignorance alone can’t account for such a ridiculous posting. An Arab can very much be a member of a particular ethnic group regardless of in which land that person is born. I’ll give you one guess which ethnic group that is.

Consider my query and the sentence immediately following it repeated here. Just because a person’s name isn’t an Arabic name does not mean that person is not Muslim. If it did have such a meaning then the vast majority of Muslims in Indonesia are doing a mighty fine job of faking it.

Going by your location, then, and the issue about which you are ranting, you really don’t, at least according to you, have a thing to say about it, now do you?

At any rate, it’s not such a bad thing to avoid insulting decent segments of the population. Also, you obviously fail to understand the differences in how Muslims consider the Quran and Christians and Jews consider their Scriptures.

BTW, from your own link:

You are therefore a liar.

Then quit crying about how it is in England.

Ah, the prejudice is almost a living thing in that remark. After all, one wouldn’t want to consider someone born in Denmark, who grew up in Denmark, studied in Denmark, and lived his life as a citizen of Denmark as really Danish, now would one? :rolleyes:

One guess which sentence above I feel should be repeated in my response to this last quote.

No. Demanding they throw out the English flag, St. George, statues with boars, the Piglet and censure art exhibitions couldn’t be farther from my mind. I would however like them to get rid of that insulting statue near Leister Sq. And I actually have lived years in London, and do occasionally still pop by.

Yes it is, if avoiding insulting means selling out of basic principles of western society, such as freedom of press and artistic freedom. Then it’s not only bad, but disastrously so. Or if it means giving in to every little silly thing some group or other might object to. Nobody has a right not to be offended. But you actually think they should get rid of the flag, censure art exhibitions and outlaw the damn Piglet, etc. Well that makes you a damn fool then.

? uh. They knew of no Muslim group that had protested. Certainly they had no problem with the exhibit themselves. Tate gallery had taken it upon themselves to ensure no Muslim could possible be confronted with items they might not like. Even to such an extend as going further than what The Muslim Council of Britain thought necessary. That makes them damn fools, just like you.

And what makes the Tate decision even more harming and pathetic is their own direct reference to the terror attacks on the Tube. They’re being cowed to censure by terrorists. Showing everybody that terror works.

Actually I think you’re the one who gets it wrong there. The Jews have about the same relation to their holy scriptures as do the Muslims, re. the respect you show the physical objects themselves, etc. Also you might have missed it, but a number of Christians don’t particular like it when you piss on the Madonna, tear up the bible or some such thing.

You must be reading out your ass cause I just said one would normally not consider a man born in Denmark to Arab parents an Arab, as you do, but a Dane – alternatively a 2. generation immigrant Dane. There you go, I call him a Dane while you insist someone born in Denmark, who grew up in Denmark, studied in Denmark, and lived his life as a citizen of Denmark is really an Arab. You little horrid prejudiced man! Shame on you.

Speaking as a life-long liberal/socialist type I say that if people are offended by certain symbols and artistic representations, flags or badges or values it’s only fair that we respond in a fair and balanced way.

Which is to say, ‘if you don’t fucking like it don’t let the door hit your damn ass on the way out.’

Just fuck the fuck off. Give up your citizenship and fuck off. This also applies to any fundie Christians trying to interfere in anyone’s freedom of speech.

Rune, you are a lying sack of crap.

Ahh well. We can’t all be perfect. But my dog likes me. At least when I feed it.

So you’re saying it’s impossible to be a Dane and an Arab at the same time?

No. I’m saying you’re fool if you want to scrap the English flag or St. George on account of something that happened 900 years ago. And a silly fool if you want to outlaw the Piglet. And a damn fool if you agree to let some groups censure your press or art exhibits.

As for Arabs being English or Danes. Have it your way. I don’t really care one way or the other. It’s just a matter of definition. Can you be a Swede and a Dane at the same time? Heck, you can be an extraterrestrial and a Dane at the same time for all I care. I know a sheep shagging guy from New Zealand who I gladly call a Dane, so you see I’m not particular in the least.

Yes. Your defintion versus everybody else’s. :wink: They may not like the hyphenated style in England or in Europe, but the two groups are still not mutually exclusive. Arab /= county, and as Monty points out, Arab /= Muslim either.

Ugh. If this means overly-cute pig kitsch like this will be banned, I’m having a hard time being against it.

Cite, please? I’m just curious.

Because that was their LAST HURRAH and somehow we’re responsible.

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CITE!

Plenty of automobile workers hate the Japanese, as do several WWII veterans of my acquaintance. My mentor in my old industry was, as a child, held captive in a Japanese prison camp during that war. His hatred of the Japanese was total and I seriously doubt he was the only one to have had his experiences who felt that way.

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Yes, but Americans in general have no great chip on their shoulder about it. We don’t insist that the Japanese cater to our every whim. Heck, Japanese nationalists regularly lie about the war over there and we don’t bat an eyelid!

I’ve said for years that the underlying reason that the Arabs hate all westerners is because of the Crusades. Nice to be vindicated.

Heh! Hubby has a cousing living in London. She seems to like it better than DK.

Keep us out of this buddy!

Anyone who feels offended has my full support, until we reach the lake, at which point they can take their opinion in bubbling fervor to the bottom. Fuck em, and feed em fishheads.

Robinson Crusoe was abducted by North African slave traders.

Arab and North African slave hunting pirates came as far north as the Faeroe Islands and Iceland. I have a book here somewhere about a whole village on the Faeroe Islands being abducted to North Africa. A priest collected some money and traveled through Europe to ransom back the slaves. Quite an adventure for the priest. But unfortunately most were dead when he arrived.

It all first really stopped in the 19. century when the US send in the marines. This where the passage to the shores of Tripoli, from the marine hymn comes from. Also the line: “Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute" is from this conflict.

What do you mean “better that DK”? London is a Danish city, didn’t you know that? The third largest Danish city as it happens.

He got it wrong anyway. This one works much better:

“First the came for the Union Jack, and I said nothing.
Then they pointed their sabers toward Switzerland, and again I did nothing.
Then they focused their outrage at the Dominican Republic and I asked, what the fuck is the Dominican Republic!”

Well, I did see some excellent suggestions for a new British flag recently. I really like this one and this one. Brits - loot 'em or leave 'em, but you gotta love 'em! :smiley:

Anyway, these Muslim Brits are way late in their flag suggestion. Why, Norwegian poet Arnulf Øverland wrote

years and years and years ago. Typical Brits, always late off the mark.