Scrubs 5/3

I liked this episode. Eliot is so cute, and being able to plan her proposal was a hoot. I certainly did not need the mental image of Kelso having sex with his wife :eek:

How realistic is it that Carla and Eliot would have missed the diagnosis of the two senior citizens?

The only thing that rubbed me wrong was JD. I always found him sweet and vulnerable and endearing, but he’s playing dog in the manger again with Eliot and we’ve been down this road before. He messed things up between her and Sean and if he messes up things between her and Keith I will be severely put out.

I wonder if they’re setting something up for Kim to return with the baby?

I found the end of the episode remarkably poignant, actually. He’s failed; he blew it. Now it’s finally hit home, and I think the point of the entire proposal episode was to drive that nail into the coffin; J.D. has lost Elliott forever.

This presents the show, which is now almost certainly coming back for another season, by all reports, with an interesting opportunity; can they resolve this issue the right way (make J.D. grow as a person and resolve his lonliness with the right individual) or the wrong way (some contrived way to prevent Elliott from becoming Mrs. Dudemeister, and instead make her Mrs. Dorian.)

I am reminded here of the “Friends” resolution to the Ross-Rachel issue, which was done three or four years too late, but anyway, there’s an example of doing it WRONG, and I’m gonna get back to Scrubs so bear with me. The entire problem with Ross and Rachel was that Ross was immature and selfish. They had an opportunity, at the end, to resolve that issue; make Ross get on the plane and go to Paris with Rachel. All they had to do was have him say, “I don’t want to stop you and your dreams, but I want to be with you, so I’m coming to Paris wth you and Emma, and maybe we can make it work there.” Then, Ross would have shown that he had grown and truly wanted to do what was right for his family.

Instead, they had Ross beg Rachel to say - and, in effect, give up her career and her growth as a person to accede to Ross’s completely irritating and unsympathetic nature. It was a solution that made both characters regress as people. They’d be divorced within two years.

So getting back to J.D., you CAN’T get him back with Elliott without essentially negating all the growth of Elliott Reed and negating any chance J.D. will be a dynamic character. Elliott, who’s a nut case, has in fits and starts grown up as a result of her relationship with Keith. J.D.'s problem, at heart, is that he’s needy and self-centred. He doesn’t seem particularly interested in providing anyone else with anything; he wants Elliott when he doesn’t have her and is bored with her when he does. He wants attention from Turk, he wants Cox to be his father, so on and so forth. If you give him Elliott again he’s just getting what HE wants, and of course the relationship will fail again.

So to resolve the series what really needs to be done is to have J.D. get into a relationship with someone where he wants to give THEM something. Maybe Kim can do that, I dunno, or maybe Keri Russell can. But Elliott isn’t the right answer.

I agree with your assessment. They’ve set it up at least twice that JD and Eliot do not work together as a couple and for them to end up together would be horribly contrived. I don’t want to see him with Kim because she lied to him, and I don’t want to see him with Dani because he truly disliked her. There may be some future with Melody…we’ll see.

I found it interesting that The Todd, despite his perceived horndogginess, has had no luck with the ladies. Although maybe that should not be shocking, because in any normal environment, he would have been fired long ago for sexual harrassment. I also liked how everyone imagained being married to Eliot… that was cute. And Carla??? Hmmm… :wink:

God, I hope so, but could you let us know where you heard this? Everything I’ve come across said it’s over.

“Scrubs may be over after all”
Anyway, I just popped in to say “devil’s threesome.”

I think it’s clear that Dani won’t end up with anyone other than a Perry Clone - someone who can throw back all her crap and still love her.

-Joe

According to Zach Braff (see link in the article you posted), ABC will likely pick it up if NBC doesn’t. The Variety article (also in your link) mentions the same thing, but says that Braff’s fat new contract with ABC Television Studio (the producers of the show) might make the show cost prohibitive for the ABC Network.

Which I don’t quite get; they’re both arms of the same company, right? And he’s already signed a contract?

I re-read the article linked and the Variety article, and the most I got was that the ABC network was ‘interested’, should NBC decline. I wonder if Braff just priced himself out of the market?

Everything you said was right-on, but this paragraph in particular highlights my frustration with Scrubs: I can’t stand JD (and by extension, the noxious Zach Braff, who milks his JDness in other things). The doe-eyed insecurities and goofy non-sequiters were fun for a (short) while, but enough already! Grow TFU! I like everyone else–cast and characters, down to even the guests & bit players–but I don’t feel an iota of sympathy for JD and his plight, and would prefer to have the series turn him into a poor man’s Cox/The Early Years: largely friendless, alienated from others who’ve moved on and grown up, being a “good” Dr. and an unhappy person. Nothing could make me happier for such a self-absorbed and immature character.

Heh, I was going to come in here and say something about how, out of all of Elliot’s boyfriends, Keith is actually the first one I’ve liked, and that I was happy for the two of them, but then I decided against it, because it’s just a TV show and these are just characters. But RickJay set the precedent of investing a lot of thought and some emotion into the show, so I changed my mind again and decided to throw in my two cents after all :slight_smile:

That “GILF” t-shirt made me smile.

Sean was nice too. That’s the relationship JD sabotaged at Turk and Carla’s wedding.

As much as I hope the writers aren’t making the mistake of going down the JD/Elliott road again, I don’t think Keith is the guy for her either. The guy has no personality and Elliot treats him like little more than arm candy. She never goes to him for advice and she controls pretty much everything, as evidenced by last night’s pseudo-proposal. Elliott needs more of an equal partner, someone who won’t indulge her crazy control-freakiness 100% of the time. Basically, the writers haven’t done a very good job getting me invested in Keith’s character or the relationship, which is why I don’t think they will end up together.

I had to point out the old lady on it to my husband so he’d get what it meant :D.

ivylass:

Kim returns next week, I believe. If not next week, then the week after.

Eh, he always bugged me for some reason. I think it might have been his lips.

P.S. OK, I like Dr. Jan Itor for Elliot, too.

In just this thread, we’ve seen “Elliott”, “Eliot” and “Elliot”. Apparently the last one is the correct spelling, according to IMDB. After seeing three different spellings, I didn’t have a clue.

Yet another reason to admire The Todd and want to be like him in all ways: “The Todd accepts all applicants, regardless of age or disability.”

Elliot and Carla should kiss in every single episode.

As I recall, Elliot and Mandy Moore engaged in a pretty hot kissing session a few seasons back (with Elliot wearing a JD wig.)

The scary thing is I recognized the t-shirt. You can buy it here.

BWAH! I have got to get THIS!

Something looks incredibly wrong wearing a shirt like that and posing like a Banana Republic model.