Burden of proof, ignoring a common cause, and most fundamentally, circular reasoning. You’re arguing that blacks are inferior to whites due to genetics and your proof is that blacks are inferior to whites. I don’t understand why you don’t see this. Completely aside from the race issue, your reasoning is fundamentally flawed. And I still haven’t seen you explain why you reject the vast body of evidence refuting your claim.
Furthermore, you haven’t explained why us anti-racists would delude ourselves about racial inequality. It seems to me that your belief system is the path of least resistance. I can’t see any practical reason for supporting racial equality- it’s rather inconvenient, don’t you think? I don’t know why anyone would commit to that ideal unless they believed it were true.
I used to have a friend who owned a restaurant. On occasion he would rent his restaurant to a group for a party. He told me that he nearly always had problems with black groups he did not have with groups of other races. The blacks were rude to his staff. They pilfered eating utensils. They tipped little if at all. Sometimes they got into fights and he had to call the police.
I have talked to people who have taught in black public schools. Most tell me that most of the students are several years behind whites and Orientals, and that many of them are dangerous. I have never talked to a person who taught blacks who told me that their students were courteous and achieved well.
Experiences like this reinforce racial prejudices and stereotypes generation after generation.
Although it has become dangerous to discuss black shortcomings, as long as these shortcomings persist so will racial prejudice. It is natural for one to allow previous experience to influence current perceptions.
Of course you did miss it, I even posted a link to it, what everyone can see is that you do suffer from an acute failure to remember how you previously ignored or avoided replying to questions, like the one posted many times before asking you to point to any active researcher that agrees with your societal solutions based on your misrepresentations of their research.
As everyone can see, you continue to forget that what you are trying to win here is just to tell yourself that the wall of opposition to your ideas is not even there among conservative leaders. The conclusion is that indeed you are already a loser even before coming here to the pit, (and ignoring what the pit is precisely where decorum is not required is an even better evidence of how clueless you can get.)
So you want to claim victory over even conservative posters in the pit? That is just evidence that in the science or social worlds you are not making any headway, as there are no easy pickings out there, it is clear that you even have time to waste in the pit. And over here you just repeat the same old defenses that were already dismissed by even active researchers in biology in GD, until I see researchers supporting your societal ideas based on their research (that it is medical in nature as many of your examples show) I would worry. Over here I only see that you want to forget how you avoid the reality check, so just keep showing all that your memory genes are faulty or what it is just a moral failure of yours.
And I have been involved in education for more than 25 years and I can tell you that based on direct interaction with students that poverty and lack of both parents supporting a student is a better guide of who will not be courteous and not good achiever.
And it does not matter if the student is black, white or coming from Asia.
Of course I pointed at this also in the GD thread and before, but once again your memory genes are betraying you.
I have posted plenty of proof that blacks are characterized by crime and stupidity, both in the United States and internationally. The common cause seems to be genes rather than environment. Environment can change in a generation or two. Nowhere are there black populations of sufficient size that perform and behave as well as whites.
For a theory to be considered scientific there needs to be a null hypothesis. There needs to be a set of circumstances that would disprove the theory. Now the null hypothesis to my theory that racial differences in ability levels and behavior are largely determined genetically would be a sizable population of blacks somewhere in the world that perform and behave as well as whites do on the average.
The null hypothesis to the theory that there are no innate differences between the races would be the discovery of genes that reliably predict intelligence and crime, and the discovery that these genes are distributed disproportionally between the races. I acknowledge that these genes have not been discovered yet, but I am confident they will be.
Everyone should check the post **tomndebb ** made to brazil84, that is not what a “calm debater” is, in reality brazil84 goes to a lot of effort to keep himself in his cocoon and ignore inconvenient evidence. (He is a “clam debater”, I grant that )
BTW **NDD **brazil84 is indeed a denier of most of the science regarding global warming, do you agree with him? It is important to know because I still want to check if you are capable of understanding how science works.
If you are telling the truth about your background you know that poor Asian immigrants behave better in school and achieve more on the average than blacks.
And until then one should not propose to base societal solutions based on unfounded ideas. It is even worse when not even the scientists involved in medical research agree with the idea that “blacks are characterized by crime and stupidity” and then thanks to lack of evidence in the genetic field we should already apply your recommendations.
I believe in global warming for three reasons: during my life I have noticed milder winters and hotter summers; the consensus of climatologists agrees with global warming; global warming is plausible. When dinosaurs lived temperatures on the earth were quite a bit warmer than today. Sea levels were higher. Tropical plants lived closer to the north and south pole.
Over a period of millions of years photosynthesis removed carbon form the atmosphere and deposited it as coal, petroleum, and natural gas. By consuming these we are restoring the atmosphere, and consequently the climate of previous ages.
That is good, but I detect an omission. Do you agree with the consensus that greenhouse gases emitted by man are driving the current global warming? And, the most pertinent one: do you realize that scientists also are telling us that the big problem is not the restoration of past climate but the fact that humans will be affected negatively by the rate of change to get back to those past temperatures?
Can you honestly tell me that poor Vietnamese students behave and perform as poorly as blacks?
Because I hesitate to question your honesty, I will post what I have already posted about how Chinese, whites, and blacks respond to poverty.
San Francisco’s Chinatown in the 1960s became one of the most impoverished areas in California. Public policy professors James Q. Wilson and Richard Hernstein wrote: “One neighborhood in San Francisco had the lowest income, the highest unemployment rate, the highest proportion of families with incomes under $4,000 per year, the least educational attainment, the highest tuberculosis rate and the highest proportion of substandard housing. … That neighborhood was called Chinatown. Yet, in 1965, there were only five persons of Chinese ancestry committed to prison in the entire state of California.”
Two low-income areas outside of Boston – South Boston and Roxbury – were featured several years ago in U.S. News & World Report. They had similar socio-economic profiles: high levels of unemployment; the same percentage of children born to single-parent households; and the same percentage of people living in public housing. But the violent crime rate in Roxbury, predominately black, was four times higher than that of South Boston, predominately white.
This is excerpted from a column written by Larry Elder, who is black. Occasionally even blacks get disgusted with the lies of political correctness.
So you’re basically admitting that you only consider anecdotal evidence to have validity when it already fits into your preconceived narrative. If someone tells you about an experience that doesn’t fit, they must be lying.
They are besides being a discredited source, a place where also global warming denial resides. The point here is that you are indeed relying on people who already have dogma to overwhelm evidence, and this goes for brazil84, you are still ok by him being one of the few that are willing to support you?
