Wow. Just, wow.
NDD hasn’t really been on my radar before this thread, but I’ve never seen anybody walk into his own pit thread and so thoroughly confirm the reasons for the pitting. What a fucking racist asshole. Go back to 1960, moron.
There were nice people in 1960! Granted, also a lot of jerks, but nice people as well. Why would you inflict NDD on them?
It’s also flatly comical to anyone who is at all familiar with people from different part of Africa to think that “black” is one race. “African” is not a physically homogenous group, not in the extreme; people from Ghana do not look anything like people from Ethiopia, who in turn don’t look the slightest bit like the Khoisan people (who look like Jeff, the purple Wiggle who’s always falling asleep, who in turn is of Chinese descent.) Different African groups look as different to me, physically, as Wesley Snipes and Neil Patrick Harris.
If race exists, there is no rational basis, none whatsoeer, for saying Nigerians are the same race as Somalians. None at all. They don’t look anything alike; they are more genetically separated than any groups of white people. Hell, I haven’t even mentioned the various pygmy groups; it’s kind of hard to deny they have a rather striking physical difference.
But race, of course, is a SOCIAL construct. In North America there is a distinct social and historical difference between people who ancestors were from Europe and people whose ancestors were from Africa, so that is the racial divide that matters socially, even if it’s not particularly meaningful genetically. The racial divides between, say, Bantu and East African were not socially significant, and so were assumed by most people to not be scientifically significant (or even to exist) even though they do. In different times and palces other racial divides were important; people used to think of the Irish as racially different from the English, and to this day many still think of Jews as racially distinct. “Hispanic” today is an artificial bullshit racial divide that’s often bandied about, but wasn’t so much 100 years ago and will probaly be forgotten in the future.
And so, retards like New Deal Democrat assume that all people descended from “Africa” must be genetically similar, though of course it’s the most genetically diverse place on Earth. Or they just ignore the existence of North American aboriginals (it screws up race-based intelligence theories) and such.
Anyway, NDD is just thrilled to have discovered Philippe Rushton, a long-discredited racist psychologist. It’s a burp, and he’ll stop when he gets done fapping about it.
Some of my best friends are goats.
Because I wasn’t born yet?
You’re right, though, 1960 doesn’t deserve this clown either, just that his idiotic ramblings wouldn’t have seemed so out of place then.
I hereby revise my previous statement to read, “Go away, moron, never to resurface at any time during the past, present, or future.”
Me, neither. Opened this thread only because I thought olives was pitting some newbie, and thought, "That doesn’t sound like the olives I know … " 
Then … I read on …
Wowza.
Excuse me. I asked a few simple questions. Where do blacks perform and behave as well as whites? What evidence do you have that the Negro race is biologically equivalent to the white race? How am I mistaken? What don’t I know?
What liberals cannot do is prove that blacks on the average are as intelligent as whites.
How was Professor Rushton discredited? Where is the evidence that he is mistaken?
And I have evidence that white males have crashed the economy and started
wars.
In 1960 it was still possible to believe that inferior black intellectual performance and higher rates of crime and illegitimacy were due to racial discrimination. Two generations after the civil rights legislation was signed, and after vast sums of tax money have been spent on anti poverty programs and efforts like No Child Left Behind to bridge the race gap it is much more difficult for one to really believe this.
That is why so much anger is directed at me and at any one who tells the truth. We are like the boy who shouts, “The Emperor has not clothes!”
It takes more intelligence to have enough economic power to crash the economy to have the political power to start wars than it does to turn a thriving white working class neighborhood into an asphalt jungle of crime and moral depravity.
Every publication he’s ever put out was systematically dismantled in its turn; he then waits a few years and puts out another. It’s how he makes his living, by getting money from people like you.
Even a cursory Google search will turns up scores of academic papers that tear Rushton’s work apart; I find it impossible to believe you are not aware of this.
http://nilevalleypeoples.blogspot.ca/2010/05/blog-post.html
Hell, just follow the links from the Wikipedia entry.
For that matter, I find it impossible to believe an intelligent person reading “Race, Evolution and Human Behaviour” cannot see in it a wide swath of methodological problems.
It’s actually more like a dog howling at the moon. The dog doesn’t know any better (cuz it’s just a stupid dog), but it still annoys those around him.
As a good scientist I am always willing to engage.
Why do yo think this is genetic difference and not a result of socioeconomic circumstance and/or cultural differences especially in regard to the value of education?
It seems to me, even if there was a true genetic difference, which I acknowledge is a possibility, there exists no sufficiently homogeneous group across ‘race boundaries’ re: socioeconomics, culture, and values that would allow for such a genetic difference to be reliably teased out by peer-reviewed science.
I think you might be confusing the confounding factors as something you want to believe. (a true genetic difference). I don’t think the science is there, but may be wrong. Cite me some papers, i’ll read them.
for the pit: Fuckity fuck fuck fuck.
That’s supposed to be a justification? Wouldn’t the assumption be that if you have the intelligence to rise to a position of power you would also have the economic acumen not to sell toxic mortgages?
Do you think these men staggeringly incompetent or just immoral?
Certainly not without clear definitions of 1) “intelligence” and 2) “black” and “white”.
Surely someone relying on such scientifically rigorous research will be able to do so, no?
Simply for the record, there is no ‘yucky etymology’. It comes from the categorical split between the Orient and the Occident. It really just means “eastern”.We don’t use it because people find it offensive, but the idea that there’s anything actually wrong with the term is just dumb.
A dog with a bone.
NDD really is in the realm of conspiracy theory. Similar to the “Moon Landing is a Hoax” crowd, some nutter wrote a book and it all made sense to their soft squishy brains. Once infected, they vigorously defend their nonsense as the one true faith. All of the external invalidation only makes them hold on tighter.
They never take a moment to consider that their theory:
[ol]
[li]May actually be not exactly correct and all these other folks might have a point[/li][li]Is really not getting traction externally and maybe they should keep it to themselves[/li][li]Is frankly a non-starter - Why does the theory deserve such intense advocacy? What do they win if they do “win the argument” after all?[/li][/ol]
Honestly, NDD, move on. I’m sure it makes you feel superior and is tied up in your self esteem to think that those people are lower than you, and those other people are lower than them. But wisdom comes from realizing every human has value and strengths and weaknesses, that is part of what makes us human. Take a look in the mirror and make an inventory of where you fit in next to everyone else, likely it is smack dab in the middle - just like everyone else.
You’re misunderstanding the reason why so many people are saying “wow, what a dick.”