I’m well aware of that.
:shrug: Sure – it would be a lot more comfortable for you to just wave your hands about about “genetic ideas” being “meaningless” without carefully scrutinizing the underlying assertions and logic.
I’m down with seeking truth, but you have already concluded what that truth is without any adequate evidence. I don’t have a problem with the hypothesis itself, but I do have a problem drawing conclusions without any evidence. I also have a problem with your lack of humility on the issues, and your smug arrogance that you can’t possibly be wrong, or the rest of us are tricking ourselves for the sake of political correctness.
Besides, what evidence there is, largely disagrees with your views.
And you can stop quoting verbatim the fallacies off that site. I’m already familiar with most of them, and have had that very site bookmarked for quite some time.
Jesse Jackson has pointed out that the number of blacks lynched since the end of the Civil War is less than the number of blacks murdered by other blacks every year.
You’re parsing my posts wrong. Not “genetic ideas,” but the idea that there’s a meaningful definition of race on a wholly genetic level. There isn’t.
Read for comprehension, not as a study in semantics.
Also, your attempts at goading me to respond in playing your games by using juevinile tactics, like the Internet equivalent of calling someone ‘chicken’ won’t work.
There is a point where your filibuster style of debating just drives people off. Like I’m doing now.
Later, racist.
Oh yay! That makes the lynching all better now!
You’re like an impossible abyss of ignorance.
I am of the old left, not the Marxist left, but the socialist labor left of Norman Thomas and Walter Reuther. It is clear to me that the New Deal worked, and that much of the Great Society did not. During the 1960s liberal democrats assumed with no evidence that if racial discrimination was ended blacks would behave and perform as well as whites. This has not happened.
If there had been more of an awareness of how intractable racial differences are the civil rights legislation would have been more moderate, and it would have been passed more slowly. The social dislocations that lead to the Republican domination of the United States would have been less likely.
What about those black ghetto rioters who were so evil that when the police lost control of the situation they looted and burned small shops and stores the owners’ families depended on for their livelihood?
“genetic idea” is your phrase – not mine. Besides which you’ve already conceded that the same principle applies to ethnicities and dog breeds. And yet you don’t deny there are genetic traits which are NOT distributed equally among ethnicities and dog breeds.
In short, your hand-waving about “meaningful definitions” is just a red herring.
Oh, I do read for comprehension – that’s exactly the problem here. Your position makes no sense.
Nice attack on motivations, there.
i.e. you don’t like having a spotlight shined on the nonsense you spew.
If anyone posted any evidence that most blacks behave and perform as well as most whites I missed it.
I don’t have the credentials or the time (or even care to) school you on what the difference between breeds of dogs and a race of humans are, or what a subspecies is and how race and ethnicity are not human subspecies. Especially on the genetic level.
Figure it out on your own.
Wow. So you’ve identified that there do exist bad black people on the earth. Does this have any bearing on anything?
Actually, it probably gives us a good insight into why you have such disdain and low opinions of black people. It can’t possibly be that Lynn IQ evidence- his methodology is terrible, his data is spotty and weak, and his conclusions don’t make sense.
We have no evidence, either way, on a level playing field. I know it’s hard to imagine, but try to grasp that concept first. Baby steps.
One more attempt, then I’m done. If you don’t agree with this, I’m not the one spewing nonsense. From the subspecies article on Wikipedia:
Also, monotypic species:
Why aren’t you answering my questions?!
You must be hiding behind a hood of ambiguity.
I agree it’s possible that human races do not qualify as “subspecies” as that term is formally defined. I don’t know one way or another so I won’t dispute it.
The nonsense you are spewing is your insinuation that this is dispositive of the actual question under discussion. In short, you are advancing a red herring.
Let me ask you this: Is it your position that genetically-informed traits are distributed equally among all races?
As noticed, even a long time ago in other science based subjects, the brazil guy is really a clam debater rather than a calm debater.
At last you see. This is the same technique he applies to every debate: picks an inconsequential point, a bit of semantic minutia, or a question that’s barely relevant to the overall discussion, and pounds it with his little toy hammer all the livelong day. 84 has an unbroken string of rhetorical “victories” by forfeit, as his opponents suddenly realize they’re completely wasting their time and feel foolish for engaging him in the first place.
Welcome to the club.
When the level playing field low one finds results like this:
San Francisco’s Chinatown in the 1960s became one of the most impoverished areas in California. Public policy professors James Q. Wilson and Richard Hernstein wrote: “One neighborhood in San Francisco had the lowest income, the highest unemployment rate, the highest proportion of families with incomes under $4,000 per year, the least educational attainment, the highest tuberculosis rate and the highest proportion of substandard housing. … That neighborhood was called Chinatown. Yet, in 1965, there were only five persons of Chinese ancestry committed to prison in the entire state of California.”
Two low-income areas outside of Boston – South Boston and Roxbury – were featured several years ago in U.S. News & World Report. They had similar socio-economic profiles: high levels of unemployment; the same percentage of children born to single-parent households; and the same percentage of people living in public housing. But the violent crime rate in Roxbury, predominately black, was four times higher than that of South Boston, predominately white.
Culture and values explain why some countries and some communities experience crime, while others do not. This explains why many students from Asian countries outperform equally “disadvantaged” black and brown students from the same “underperforming” inner-city government schools.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/03/17/japanese_earthquake_looters_--_mia_109252.html
It’s so odd that you think there’s a genetic difference between races, but you won’t acknowledge there’s a social difference. And by odd, I mean stupid.