SDMB Fantasy Football DYNASTY League: Year Nine

Out of curiosity RNATB, did you want Perine?

Am I forcing you to have an all-guy-you-don’t-want draft?

I started this draft with 2.04 and 2.06… and the only pick I’ve actually used in the second round is 2.05.

So I had to pick between Perine and Foreman. I own both Miller and Kelley, so both of them are handcuffs and potential usurpers for me. So it came down purely to predictions.

Foreman is clearly the better athletic freak, and that jumps out immediately. He’s got the higher ceiling. He’s faster, he’s got better acceleration, and all the shit that could make him a top end RB.

Perine doesn’t have any exceptional physical attributes. He’s not that fast, not that quick to accelerate, not that quick to change direction, not much lateral agility. He does have top tier balance, though. Look at this - yes, it’s a highlight video, but the non-highlight videos show something similar. Guys are knocking off of him left and right and he never loses his balance or sense of direction and always falls forward.

Another thing that impresses is that he basically always picks the right move to beat a guy. Almost every single time he makes the right call on how to approach a defender. When to try to juke, when to try to bull rush them, when to sidestep, when to simply try to dive around them and fall forward for another yard. His vision at the line seems pretty good, but once he’s through the line he basically always picks the best way to beat the second level defenders.

He’s also clearly very strong. He plays with a low center of gravity with short steps and generating good power through his lower body. He pushes through a shit load of arm tackles and has the strength to always fall forward even through a gang tackle. The CG/leg power actually makes him look a decent bit like MJD.

Most of Foreman’s highlights involve him running really fast through huge holes a dominant O-line opened up for him. He rarely displays special skills or savvy as a runner - almost all of what makes him impressive is simply a big guy running really fast. Which isn’t to say that can’t work - Jamal Lewis would be a good comparison if Foreman can adapt to the pro game - but he’s a guy who clearly got by on a good situation and physical talent, where the pro game needs savvy. Perine clearly already has that savvy.

Which isn’t to say that Perine is a way better prospect. I think Foreman has a chance to have a much better career with a higher ceiling, but has a higher bust potential because he hasn’t displayed skill outside of being big and fast. Perine seems like the sort of high floor guy who’ll carve out a career somewhere because he can always generate positive plays even if his average to below average physical attributes keep him from ever being a top guy.

FWIW, though, Foreman has looked way better in the preseason than Perine which is scary but a very limited sample size.

Well, that dream died quickly.

Although there is something nice about selecting a guy you know you’ll be able to drop without a second thought in 6 weeks.

Darren McFadden, RB, Cowboys.

I’ll PM Omni.

What were you hoping for?

Also you guys should talk more about your draft picks. Because the draft is fun. And discussion is fun. And fun is good.

Alright, as far as I can see the only trade affecting the draft going forward that wasn’t listed in my last recap is that I have RNATB’s 3.05 pick. Double check that this is correct:

1.01 Jules [from dale] - Leonard Fournette, RB, Jax
1.02 Retro - Dalvin Cook, RB, Min
1.03 Jules - Joe Mixon, RB, Cin
1.04 Ellis - Christian McCaffrey, RB, CAR
1.05 Beef [From RNATB] - Corey Davis, WR, TEN
1.06 RNATB [from Justin via SenorBeef] - Kareem Hunt, RB, KC
1.07 Hamlet - Mike Williams, WR, LA Chargers
1.08 Omni - Mitchell Trubisky, QB, CHI
1.09 Petey - Marshawn Lynch, RB, Oak
1.10 Stringer - John Ross, WR, CIN
1.11 Varlos - Alvin Kamara, RB, NO
1.12 Justin [from Beef] - Zay Jones, WR, BUF

2.01 Jules - [from dalej42] Marlon Mack, RB, IND
2.02 Retro - OJ Howard, TE, TB
2.03 Jules - Evan Engram, TE, NYG
2.04 Ellis [From Ellis via Beef] - David Njoku, TE, CLE
2.05 Beef [from RNATB via Varlos] - Samaje Perine, RB, WAS
2.06 RNATB [from Justin via Beef] - D’Onta Foreman, RB, HOU
2.07 Hamlet - Darren McFadden, RB, DAL
2.08 Omni
2.09 Petey
2.10 Stringer
2.11 RNATB [from Varlos]
2.12 Varlos [from Beef]

3.01 dale
3.02 Retro
3.03 dale [from Jules]
3.04 Ellis
3.05 Beef [from RNATB]
3.06 Justin
3.07 Hamlet
3.08 Omni
3.09 Petey
3.10 Stringer
3.11 Retro [from Varlos]
3.12 Ellis [from Beef]

2018:
Varlos has SenorBeef’s 2nd round pick
SenorBeef has Varlos’ 3rd round pick

Misc:
Ellis Dee sends Isaiah Crowell to Beef for pick 2.04

I have a huge dropoff after Perine in my half assed rankings of the rookies.

When the second round started, there were 6 picks I wanted and I had 5 guys I targeted and would have been happy with. After Mack went, there were 5 picks and 5 guys, so I was very hopeful. Then one after another, the guys I wanted to take were taken. At 4, I still had hope. Then 3, I got a little scared. At 2, I started looking elsewhere for guys, because I kinda figured. Then, of course, RNATB takes the last of my guys right before me.

It’s not a huge deal, of course. None of them was, to me, worth trading up for, and if I really wanted them, I’d try and get them. I was tempted to do it for Njoku, but he’s so raw and TE is never a priority for me, so I decided to roll the dice.

We’re quickly in crap shoot territory. Which 3rd down RB or rookie WR who is currently #4 or 5 on the depth chart do you want to take a shot at? There’s guys I still want (I wont say who) to be available because they’re my crap shoot guys, but not a whole lot of differencemakers yet.

McFadden will get work for 6 weeks or so, after which I can drop him and take another flyer on a guy. I’d prefer a physical specimen who needs developmental time, but such is life.

Now, as long as no one takes my two lottery ticket guys I have left, I’ll be fine.

The same kinda thing happened with my first pick. I had a tier of 6 guys, and I was picking 7th. I think pretty much everyone in the world knew Fournette, McCaffrey, Cook, and Mixon were going 1-4 in this league, and I kinda wanted Hunt. But after Ware went down, I knew RNATB would take him if he had the chance. So it came down to hoping someone took Ross or Marshawn, so Corey would fall to me. He didn’t. But I don’t have a huge gap between Davis and Williams, so I got a guy I’m pretty happy with talent-wise and who reminds me a bit of Mike Evans, but less NFL ready and waaaaayyy too many injury questions. I don’t need another WR for this year (barring another injury plagued season), but with B. Marsh, Decker, and Garcon being on the wrong age line, I’m hoping Williams lives up to the hype and can be a long term starter for awhile.

My theory, which I’ve played out, is that since WR’s are relevant for so much longer of their career than RB, they’re a better option to draft early. Of course, I would have rathered Fournette or Cook than Williams, but I’ll settle for Williams. Just like I settled for Keenan Allen after Gio Bernard and Montee Ball, Kelvin Benjamin after Bishop Sankey and Terrance West (can you believe Bishop fucking Sankey was the first pick in our draft?) or Michael Thomas after Kenneth Dixon, and should have for Antonio Brown instead of Mikel Leshoure.

This does, of course, lead to attrition in the RB department (Peterson and Jamaal Charles are all but done), but I think the days of bell cow RB is almost gone, and finding a differencemaking RB without a top 3 pick is going to be a tough job. It’s much more of a lottery.

Pick coming momentarily.

This is a really shitty rookie class for fantasy. Not doing this on purpose, but…

Tarik Cohen - RB, CHI

1.01 Jules [from dale] - Leonard Fournette, RB, Jax
1.02 Retro - Dalvin Cook, RB, Min
1.03 Jules - Joe Mixon, RB, Cin
1.04 Ellis - Christian McCaffrey, RB, CAR
1.05 Beef [From RNATB] - Corey Davis, WR, TEN
1.06 RNATB [from Justin via SenorBeef] - Kareem Hunt, RB, KC
1.07 Hamlet - Mike Williams, WR, LA Chargers
1.08 Omni - Mitchell Trubisky, QB, CHI
1.09 Petey - Marshawn Lynch, RB, Oak
1.10 Stringer - John Ross, WR, CIN
1.11 Varlos - Alvin Kamara, RB, NO
1.12 Justin [from Beef] - Zay Jones, WR, BUF

2.01 Jules - [from dalej42] Marlon Mack, RB, IND
2.02 Retro - OJ Howard, TE, TB
2.03 Jules - Evan Engram, TE, NYG
2.04 Ellis [From Ellis via Beef] - David Njoku, TE, CLE
2.05 Beef [from RNATB via Varlos] - Samaje Perine, RB, WAS
2.06 RNATB [from Justin via Beef] - D’Onta Foreman, RB, HOU
2.07 Hamlet - Darren McFadden, RB, DAL
2.08 Omni - Tarik Cohen, RB, CHI
2.09 Petey
2.10 Stringer
2.11 RNATB [from Varlos]
2.12 Varlos [from Beef]

3.01 dale
3.02 Retro
3.03 dale [from Jules]
3.04 Ellis
3.05 Beef [from RNATB]
3.06 Justin
3.07 Hamlet
3.08 Omni
3.09 Petey
3.10 Stringer
3.11 Retro [from Varlos]
3.12 Ellis [from Beef]

2018:
Varlos has SenorBeef’s 2nd round pick
SenorBeef has Varlos’ 3rd round pick

Misc:
Ellis Dee sends Isaiah Crowell to Beef for pick 2.04

Damn it! I thought Tarik Cohen would fall to me for 3.01.

Alright I’m not trashing shit for being a homer anymore. Not while Omni lives.

Actually I haven’t really done fantasy as a homer in a long time.

Did you PM Petey?

I did

Bear Down, Chicago Bears!! Make every play clear the way to victory!

Choosing between WRs here. Decided to go younger.

2.09 JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Pit

I will PM Stringer.

I’ll trade both 3.02 and 3.11 for any of the upcoming picks.

Kind of surprised this guy was still around, not too many exciting players left.

2.10 - Jamaal Williams, RB, GB

PMing RNATB.

Nah. I was hoping Ross or one of the TEs would drop to me.

With that in mind - and not as a homer pick - I’ll take Chris Goodwin, WR-TB. He’s going to be a Big Deal once D-Jax is gone.

PMing Varlos.

Was a coin flip between him and Cohen for me.

Hmm. Lots of homerism going on. I’d continue the trend if the Giants were in the habit of drafting good football players.

Ugh. I’d take Curtis Samuel if I didn’t already own half the Panthers roster. There’s really no one here at RB/WR I like more than I dislike their warts, so I’ll just take another shot at the whole “QB of the Future” thing (Goff!) and take a flier on 2.12 QB Deshaun Watson, Hou.

Hrrrrm.

dale is up, PM sent.

This QB class is ass and no one should be touched until the late third I think.

Some housekeeping to start the round.

1.01 Jules [from dale] - Leonard Fournette, RB, Jax
1.02 Retro - Dalvin Cook, RB, Min
1.03 Jules - Joe Mixon, RB, Cin
1.04 Ellis - Christian McCaffrey, RB, CAR
1.05 Beef [From RNATB] - Corey Davis, WR, TEN
1.06 RNATB [from Justin via SenorBeef] - Kareem Hunt, RB, KC
1.07 Hamlet - Mike Williams, WR, LA Chargers
1.08 Omni - Mitchell Trubisky, QB, CHI
1.09 Petey - Marshawn Lynch, RB, Oak
1.10 Stringer - John Ross, WR, CIN
1.11 Varlos - Alvin Kamara, RB, NO
1.12 Justin [from Beef] - Zay Jones, WR, BUF

2.01 Jules - [from dalej42] Marlon Mack, RB, IND
2.02 Retro - OJ Howard, TE, TB
2.03 Jules - Evan Engram, TE, NYG
2.04 Ellis [From Ellis via Beef] - David Njoku, TE, CLE
2.05 Beef [from RNATB via Varlos] - Samaje Perine, RB, WAS
2.06 RNATB [from Justin via Beef] - D’Onta Foreman, RB, HOU
2.07 Hamlet - Darren McFadden, RB, DAL
2.08 Omni - Tarik Cohen, RB, CHI
2.09 Petey - JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, PIT
2.10 Stringer - Jamaal Williams, RB, GB
2.11 RNATB [from Varlos] - Chris Goodwin, WR, TB
2.12 Varlos [from Beef] - Deshaun Watson, QB, HOU

3.01 dale
3.02 Retro
3.03 dale [from Jules]
3.04 Ellis
3.05 Beef [from RNATB]
3.06 Justin
3.07 Hamlet
3.08 Omni
3.09 Petey
3.10 Stringer
3.11 Retro [from Varlos]
3.12 Ellis [from Beef]

2018:
Varlos has SenorBeef’s 2nd round pick
SenorBeef has Varlos’ 3rd round pick

Misc:
Ellis Dee sends Isaiah Crowell to Beef for pick 2.04