*** SDMB Live coverage, VP Debate. 10/04/2016 ***

Pence too is denying that Trump has said what he’s said.

Kaine has landed some punches but it’s not clear if there’s any real winner. I think both well have a meme waiting for them at the end of the evening.

Kaine is coming across like a smug dick. Pence is coming across like an evasive authoritarian and a liar, but he is presenting himself (significantly) better than Kaine.

And Miss Quijano, who I had never heard of before this debate (never heard of her network, either, for that matter) is doing a terrible job of asking pointed questions and of controlling the discussion.

I’ve turned off the live stream because I now dislike all 3 people involved and am only following along here.

Did Pence just advocate a war with Russia in Syria?

Pence strikes me as somebody auditioning for 2020. Kaine strikes me as somebody trying to win this election.

Yeah, I’ve walked away too. Dunno why we bother with the veepabiles.

And this moderation can be described in Trumpisms: Weak. Sad. And that’s even considering the low bar for Commission on Debates moderation.

I’m sure no one wanted to moderate this debate. It was probably down to the paperboy or Elaine.

Pence is stuttering now. He’s on the rope. Hit again Kaine.

Yep. Pence doesn’t go to the mat to rebut every remark.

Quijano is doing an even worse job than Lauer. I didn’t think it possible.

The moderator seems to cut off Kaine when he interrupts but doesn’t stop Pence when he interrupts.

More than that. He doesn’t defend any of it.

I don’t know if that’s a good strategy or not. It’s smart politics for Pence’s own political success, for sure.

Finally a NK question. Finally.

ETA, Pence answers responding to the Clinton foundation?

Moderation is weak.

Pence is stuttering. He just went through 3 topics in one sentence before settling on one. It still didn’t answer the question about nuclear weapons.

Tim: Talk about the Trump Foundation.

EDIT: He heard me. :slight_smile:

What’s all this Pence stuff about rebuilding the military, “rebuild our nuclear forces” ? “Our Navy is as small as it was in 1916?”

Are we in a nuclear arms race I haven’t heard about?

What does he want to do with new boats, play with them in the bathtub? It’s the 21st fucking century!

Define “entertainment.”

Awesome fight. Not comparable to this, in all the wrong ways.

did mr pence just open up foundation war.??! Oh good grief, that is not smart. mr trump has asked for foreign donations to his campaign.

Pence looks like he wants this to end. He looked good at first but the longer this continues, he looks tired and it looks like he’s run out of material to work with. Kaine’s looking smarter and smarter.

A personal faith question? How f’ing stupid.

Yeah he looks like he wants out and is ready for a nightly Bible reading.