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Thanks! ![]()
On to the turn results:
Map in Flickr here
Order Results:
Britain: 13 Centers
Britain: F Andalusia Supports F Barcelona
Britain: F Barcelona Supports F Andalusia
Support cut by Move from Gulf of Lyon.
Britain: F Gibraltar -> Straits of Gibraltar
Bounced with Straits of Gibraltar (1 against 3).
Britain: A Madrid -> Navarra
Britain: F Mid Atlantic Ocean Supports F South Atlantic Ocean
Britain: A Navarra -> Bordeaux
Britain: F North Sea -> Heligoland Bight
Britain: F Norway Supports F Sweden
Britain: A Ruhr Supports A Munich
Support failed. Move orders must be supported explicitly. (N.B. Munich did not hold, it moved -wevets)
Britain: A Seville -> Madrid
Britain: F South Atlantic Ocean Supports F Gibraltar
Support failed. Move orders must be supported explicitly.
Britain: F Sweden Supports F Norway
Egypt: 15 Centers
The Army in Lyon cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
Egypt: F Algeria Supports F Straits of Gibraltar
Egypt: A Eastern Sahara -> Libya
Egypt: F Gulf of Lyon -> Barcelona
Bounced with Barcelona (2 against 2).
Egypt: F Ligurian Sea Supports A Monaco -> Marseilles
Egypt: A Lyon -> Alsace
Bounced with Alsace (1 against 1).
Dislodged from Paris (3 against 1).
Egypt: F Maltese Sea Convoys A Tunisia -> Venice
Egypt: A Marseilles -> Lyon
Bounced with Paris (1 against 1).
Egypt: A Milan Supports A Switzerland
Egypt: A Monaco -> Marseilles
Failed because Egypt: A Marseilles -> Lyon failed.
Egypt: F Morroco Supports F Straits of Gibraltar
Egypt: F Straits of Gibraltar Supports F Western Mediterranean
Support cut by Move from Gibraltar.
Egypt: A Switzerland Supports A Lyon -> Alsace
Support cut by Move from Munich.
Egypt: A Tunisia -> Venice
No Convoy route.
Egypt: A Tuscany -> Piedmont
Egypt: F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Western Mediterranean
Egypt: F Western Mediterranean Supports F Gulf of Lyon -> Barcelona
Germany: 7 Centers
The Army in Munich cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
No order for unit at Berlin. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Hamburg. Hold order assigned.
Germany: A Alsace Supports A Paris -> Lyon
Germany: A Auvergne Supports A Paris -> Lyon
Germany: F Berlin Holds
Germany: A Frankfurt Supports A Munich
Support failed. Move orders must be supported explicitly.
Germany: F Hamburg Holds
Germany: A Munich -> Switzerland
Bounced with Switzerland (1 against 2).
Dislodged from Saxony (2 against 1).
Germany: A Paris -> Lyon
Poland: 6 Centers
Poland: F Finland Holds
Poland: A Gorky Supports A St-Petersburg -> Moscow
Poland: A Lithuania -> Bielorussia
Bounced with Bielorussia (1 against 1).
Poland: A Murmansk Holds
Poland: A St-Petersburg -> Moscow
Bounced with Central Russian Plateau (2 against 1).
Poland: A Warsaw Supports A Lithuania -> Bielorussia
Support cut by Move from Krakow.
Russia: 1 Center
Russia: A Lapland -> Murmansk
Bounced with Murmansk (1 against 1).
Russia: A Moscow Holds
Turkey: 22 Centers
No order for unit at Adriatic Sea. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Caucasus. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Croatia. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Eastern Black Sea. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Georgia. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Greece. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Ionian Sea. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Odessa. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Sevastopol. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Slovakia. Hold order assigned.
Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Holds
Turkey: A Austria Supports A Saxony -> Munich
Turkey: A Bielorussia Supports A Krakow -> Warsaw
Support cut by Move from Lithuania.
Turkey: A Caucasus Holds
Turkey: A Central Russian Plateau -> Moscow
Bounced with St-Petersburg (2 against 1).
Turkey: A Croatia Holds
Turkey: A Czech Republic -> Saxony
Turkey: F Eastern Black Sea Holds
Turkey: A Georgia Holds
Turkey: A Greece Holds
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Holds
Turkey: A Kiev -> Central Russian Plateau
Failed because Turkey: A Central Russian Plateau -> Moscow failed.
Turkey: A Krakow -> Warsaw
Bounced with Warsaw (1 against 1).
Turkey: A Odessa Holds
Turkey: A Podolia -> Krakow
Failed because Turkey: A Krakow -> Warsaw failed.
Turkey: A Saxony -> Munich
Turkey: F Sevastopol Holds
Turkey: A Siberia -> Urals
Turkey: A Slovakia Holds
Turkey: A Volga Supports A Central Russian Plateau -> Moscow
All dislodged units destroyed; advancing to next phase.
Builds/Disbands:
Britain has 1 Build
Germany may not use 1 Build due to no available home supply centers
Russia 1 Disband
Turkey 2 Builds
How about Builds due Saturday, Sept. 17th at 7 AM PDT, and Spring 2005 Moves due Monday, Sept. 19th at 7 AM PDT (10 AM EDT, 4 PM SAST)
Don’t worry - the game has not been forgotten. Real life issues intrude, but I will post again later today.
Map in Flickr here
Builds from Winter 2004:
Britain: Build Army London
Russia: Disband Army Lapland
We have a player traveling, so next turn, Spring 2005, will be due:
7 AM PDT Thursday September 22nd.
I was reluctant to run the turn without orders from 2 major powers, but here it went:
Map in Flickr: here
Orders Results:
Britain:
No orders received. Holds assigned by jDip.
Britain: F Andalusia Holds
Britain: F Barcelona Holds
Britain: A Bordeaux Holds
Britain: F Gibraltar Holds
Britain: F Heligoland Bight Holds
Britain: A London Holds
Britain: A Madrid Holds
Britain: F Mid Atlantic Ocean Holds
Britain: A Navarra Holds
Britain: F Norway Holds
Britain: A Ruhr Holds
Britain: F South Atlantic Ocean Holds
Britain: F Sweden Holds
Egypt:
Egypt: F Algeria Supports F Straits of Gibraltar
Egypt: F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Western Mediterranean
Egypt: A Libya -> Venice
No Convoy route.
Egypt: F Ligurian Sea Supports A Monaco -> Marseilles
Egypt: F Maltese Sea Convoys A Libya -> Venice
Egypt: A Marseilles -> Lyon
Egypt: A Milan Supports A Switzerland
Egypt: A Monaco -> Marseilles
Egypt: F Morroco Supports F Straits of Gibraltar
Egypt: A Piedmont Supports A Switzerland
Egypt: F Straits of Gibraltar Supports F Western Mediterranean
Egypt: A Switzerland Supports A Marseilles -> Lyon
Egypt: A Tunisia -> Rome
Convoy path taken: Tunisia→Tyrrhenian Sea→Rome.
Egypt: F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Tunisia -> Rome
Egypt: F Western Mediterranean Supports F Gulf of Lyon
Germany:
No orders received. Holds assigned by jDip.
Germany: A Alsace Holds
Germany: A Auvergne Holds
Germany: F Berlin Holds
Germany: A Frankfurt Holds
Germany: F Hamburg Holds
Germany: A Lyon Holds
Dislodged from Marseilles (2 against 1).
Poland:
No order for unit at Lithuania. Hold order assigned.
Poland: F Finland -> Gulf of Bothnia
Poland: A Gorky Supports A Murmansk -> Urals
Poland: A Lithuania Holds
Poland: A Murmansk -> Urals
Poland: A St-Petersburg Supports A Lithuania -> Latvia
Support failed. Supported unit’s order does not match support given.
Poland: A Warsaw -> Bielorussia
Bounced with Bielorussia (1 against 2).
Russia:
Russia: A Moscow Holds
Dislodged from Central Russian Plateau (2 against 1).
Turkey:
Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Holds
Turkey: A Austria -> Munich
Failed because Turkey: A Munich -> Alsace failed.
Turkey: A Bielorussia Supports A Central Russian Plateau -> Moscow
Support cut by Move from Warsaw.
Turkey: A Caucasus Holds
Turkey: A Central Russian Plateau -> Moscow
Turkey: A Croatia Holds
Turkey: F Eastern Black Sea Holds
Turkey: A Georgia Holds
Turkey: A Greece Holds
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Holds
Turkey: A Kiev Supports A Bielorussia
Turkey: A Krakow -> Silesia
Turkey: A Munich -> Alsace
Bounced with Alsace (1 against 1).
Turkey: A Odessa Holds
Turkey: A Podolia Supports A Slovakia -> Krakow
Turkey: A Saxony Supports A Krakow -> Silesia
Turkey: F Sevastopol -> Western Black Sea
Turkey: A Slovakia -> Krakow
Turkey: A Urals -> Gorky
Bounced with Gorky (1 against 1).
Dislodged from Murmansk (2 against 1).
Turkey: A Volga Supports A Central Russian Plateau -> Moscow
Retreat Phase:
A Moscow Disbands.
Turkey: Retreat needed for A Urals. Options are Siberia or Disband
Germany: Retreat needed for A Lyon. Options are Paris or Disband
**Retreats due by Saturday, Sept. 24th at 6 AM Pacific Time (I’m on a boat at our usual time of 7)
**
Thanks,
Poland:
Army Lithuania to Latvia succeeds!
My apologies
Turkey:
A Urals retreats to Siberia
Russia:
A Moscow disbands
Germany:
No order received
A Lyon disbands
Fall 2005 due Monday, Sept. 26th at 7 AM Pacific Time.
Map in Flickr here
Order Results:
Britain: 13 Centers
No orders
Britain: F Andalusia Holds
Britain: F Barcelona Holds
Britain: A Bordeaux Holds
Britain: F Gibraltar Holds
Britain: F Heligoland Bight Holds
Britain: A London Holds
Britain: A Madrid Holds
Britain: F Mid Atlantic Ocean Holds
Britain: A Navarra Holds
Britain: F Norway Holds
Britain: A Ruhr Holds
Britain: F South Atlantic Ocean Holds
Dislodged from Morocco (2 against 1).
Britain: F Sweden Holds
Egypt: 17 Centers
Egypt: F Algeria Supports F Straits of Gibraltar
Egypt: F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Western Mediterranean
Egypt: A Libya -> Venice
Convoy path taken: Libya→Maltese Sea→Ionian Sea→Adriatic Sea→Venice.
Egypt: F Ligurian Sea -> Marseilles
Egypt: A Lyon -> Paris
Egypt: F Maltese Sea Convoys A Libya -> Venice
Egypt: A Marseilles -> Lyon
Egypt: A Milan Supports A Switzerland
Egypt: F Morroco -> South Atlantic Ocean
Egypt: A Piedmont Holds
Egypt: A Rome -> Tuscany
Egypt: F Straits of Gibraltar Supports F Morroco -> South Atlantic Ocean
Egypt: A Switzerland Supports A Marseilles -> Lyon
Egypt: F Tyrrhenian Sea -> Ligurian Sea
Egypt: F Western Mediterranean Supports F Straits of Gibraltar
Germany: 4 Centers
The Army in Frankfurt cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
No orders
Germany: A Alsace Holds
Germany: A Auvergne Holds
Germany: F Berlin Holds
Germany: A Frankfurt Holds
Dislodged from Munich (2 against 1).
Germany: F Hamburg Holds
Poland: 5 Centers
Poland: A Gorky Supports A St-Petersburg -> Moscow
Dislodged from Moscow (2 against 1).
Poland: F Gulf of Bothnia -> Sweden
Bounced with Sweden (1 against 1).
Poland: A Latvia Supports A St-Petersburg -> Moscow
Poland: A St-Petersburg -> Moscow
Poland: A Urals Supports A Gorky
Support cut by Move from Siberia.
Poland: A Warsaw -> Bielorussia
Bounced with Bielorussia (1 against 1).
Dislodged from Krakow (2 against 1).
Turkey: 25 Centers
Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Convoys A Libya -> Venice
Turkey: A Austria -> Munich
Turkey: A Bielorussia Supports A Krakow -> Warsaw
Turkey: A Caucasus Supports A Volga
Turkey: A Croatia -> Austria
Turkey: F Eastern Black Sea Holds
Turkey: A Georgia -> Rostov
Turkey: A Greece Holds
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Convoys A Libya -> Venice
Turkey: A Kiev -> Central Russian Plateau
Turkey: A Krakow -> Warsaw
Turkey: A Moscow -> Gorky
Turkey: A Munich -> Frankfurt
Turkey: A Odessa -> Podolia
Turkey: A Podolia -> Krakow
Turkey: A Saxony Supports A Munich -> Frankfurt
Turkey: A Siberia -> Urals
Bounced with Urals (1 against 1).
Turkey: A Silesia -> Prussia
Turkey: A Volga Supports A Moscow -> Gorky
Turkey: F Western Black Sea Holds
Let’s do retreats and builds together:
Britain: Retreat for F South Atlantic
Egypt: 2 Builds
Poland: Retreats for A Warsaw and A Gorky, Disband 1
Turkey: 4 Builds
Due by Wednesday, Sept. 28th, 2011 7 AM PDT
3 NMRs and I’ll assume a player is out of the game.
3 NMRs in a row from Britain and Germany.
Poland, Turkey, and Egypt are now voting on an outcome for the game.
Turkey votes turkey/Egypt tie
I’m voting for an Egypt/Turkey tie as well.
Ok, Egypt/Turkey tie. Though if England cared there is no way for Egypt to get into The Mid Atlantic. You two would never be able to take the fight to the islands. This should be an Egypt/Turkey/England tie.
But like I said, ‘if he cared’. And I don’t blame him.
Concession of the game to Egypt/Turkey it is.
I do have to confess to a certain curiosity about what might have been if England had held, and Turkey continued to hold the upper hand in Continental supply centers… would that have been enough to split the Turkey/Egypt alliance and lead to an individual victory? Not sure.
The Modern Variant makes for a loooong game! I was surprised at how long it took. Patience is a virtue, but this was a bit much. I’m not sure I’d favor Modern over other variants for that reason.
But I do want to thank all the players who took part, and for their own patience in this very long slog. 
Thank you for administering the game, wevets! I had been looking forward to revealing and discussing the timeline of correspondence between me and Egypt for this game, but I’m not sure anyone would be interested at this point. That was grueling.
Anyway, I’m just happy to finally make it to the endgame. I’m typically the first or second person out.
Now that the game is over, do you care to weigh in on how we played, wevets? Do you agree with the others, that the Egypt/Turkey alliance was unsportsmanlike?
I would be interested in hearing about how the various alliances developed - it’s interesting as adjudicator to see the orders come in week after week, and think the game is running one way, then see the orders for the next week come in with a surprising betrayal.
For example, I was certain that at one point when the bulk of Egypt’s fleet was in the western Med, Turkey was going to build 4 fleets at once and come tearing towards Cairo - I was completely wrong. Seeing just the moves and not the negotiations can leave you in the dark a bit.
Regarding the extremely durable and honest alliance between Egypt and Turkey - I believe that’s a perfectly legitimate way to play. Every Diplomacy player walks a line between being honest and trustworthy enough to make an alliance work and deceitful enough to achieve their goals. If two players make arrangements in-game* work out so well they don’t want to fight each other for the solo victory; that actually happens a lot and isn’t unusual. I hadn’t realized on starting the game that the Modern variant, with a much bigger map and ten players, probably makes the alliance draw more likely than standard.
Speaking of standard Dip - the furor over the “Juggernaut” alliance between Russia and Turkey I think is partially due to how easy it is to maintain a Russia/Turkey alliance once that pesky Russian fleet in the Black Sea is gone. If there’s no naval threat, it’s really easy not only for Russia and Turkey to ally with each other, but it’s also very easy for them to make sure betrayal is too costly. I think that’s a little of what happened in our game as well. Turkey and Egypt set up a system where they might look at betraying each other, and decide ‘f*** that, it’s not worth it.’ That’s a tough challenge for other players to fight, and it can be really frustrating to deal with.
I hope all our players found the game on balance more entertaining than frustrating.
I think I should also give a special shout-out to our Russia (grimpixie) not just for playing Russia again, but also for surviving long after I thought he would get crushed between Poland and Turkey, and another special shout-out to MrBroadside and treis for taking over nations in mid-game and making the best out of very difficult situations they were handed. ![]()
Incidentally, this was a particularly long and arduous game, but I’ve been checking out http://playdiplomacy.com/ for my online Diplomacy fiending. If anyone wants to play in a game over there, PM me.
*****It’s very important that the game not be influenced by what’s going on outside the game: If I’m allying with Joe because of a friendship outside the game or because I want him to keep giving me rides to work, that’s not fair because other players can’t offer in-game inducements to change my alliance/benefit calculation. As long as the alliance/benefit calculation is solely based on in-game factors, then it’s fair.
The alliance between Turkey and Egypt was very shaky for the majority of the game. We put on a united front because that’s what suited the both of us. As we discovered in later talks we were each expecting a betrayal at each turn- it just never came. Our announcement that we were going for a dual conquest was itself a strategy that we were hoping would encourage the other players to just give up, giving us a tie and preventing each of us from being able to stab the other. Turkey would have attempted to snatch land from me at the very end had the game gone on that long- I know he would have because he told me so.
Anyway, in the early game I was only in real contact with Italy and Turkey.
Initial Turkish communication for those interested:
[spoiler]Great and glorious leader of Egypt,
Although our enemies would love to encourage the idea that you and I are natural adversaries, I implore you to think twice before considering me your rival. I am quite confident that Russia and Ukraine have entered an agreement against me. They will most certainly appeal to you, to convince you to exhaust your forces against me.
Consider that regardless of how our negotiations are resolved, I can not now and will not soon be able to prevent you from expanding west while Russia and Ukraine are united against me. Also consider that the beneficiaries of my destruction will surely be Ukraine first, Russia second, and they will likely not permit you to have anything at all. I am already making preparations to defend myself against them, but my preparations require that you allow me to be the buffer between you and them.
Another consideration is that Italy is the only nation who could put even a token resistance against your westward expansion, and they are already quite literally surrounded by rivals. You would certainly be successful in a race against Italy for the North African production centers, but only if you commit your fleets in Cairo and Alexandria.
What I propose is the following - if you agree to a non-aggression pact with me, as a gesture of good faith we shall both leave our fleets out of the EME sea zone. You move your fleets from Ale to Esa or the LBN sea zone, and from Cai to Ale. I will move my fleet from Izr to Ist, and my army from Ada to Arm. This will leave Isr neutral, and ensure that neither of us can use EME as a staging zone to attack the other next turn. Hopefully after we have built mutual trust from our first turn, we can continue to forge a relationship which surely none of our enemies would be able to resist.
Thank you for your consideration!
-Mosier, the Enlightened and Merciful Despot of Turkey[/spoiler][spoiler]'Sup, T
I’ve always dreamed of a world united by the Turks and the Egyptians and I’m glad that you had the forethought to contact me with this offer of peace between our great states. You know that your survival may depend on Egyptian neutrality in European matters and I am more than happy to give you this. A Europe under Turkish rule would be preferable to an Italian, Polish or, God-forbid, Ukrainian Europe.
Unfortunately, I must make some changes to your offer for it to be acceptable. Considering how valuable my friendship would be to you I think that accepting this revised deal would be to our mutual benefit.
1.) Starting with you, we will both make a public display of friendship between our two great nations with the signing of a non-aggression pact.
2.) In the interest of peace Syria, Iraq and the East Mediterranean Sea will remain neutral and demilitarized. The creation of a Syria-Iraq neutral zone will be publicized in the above-mentioned statement.
3.) I accept any claim of yours to all land north of the Syria-Iraq neutral zone (Iran, Georgia, etc) and in Mediterranean Europe (Greece, Bulgaria, etc). You accept my claim to all land south of the neutral zone (Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc) and in western Africa (Libya, Tunisia, etc).
I will be moving my fleet from the coast of Cairo to Israel. This action is non-negotiable. Know this: I will risk the very destruction of Egypt itself to secure Israel. If you do not contest my claim of Israel I will be content and will do well to remember your diplomacy in future negotiations. If you do, however…
My fleet in Alexandria will sail for Libya.
My forces in Aswan will move north preparing to either march or sail to Saudi Arabia.
You’re right: The others are likely already parceling us off. We can either rule jointly or fall together.
AClockworkMelon,
EGYPT[/spoiler][spoiler]I agree to your terms, with the exception of the public display of friendship (at least for the first turn.) I can not allow Russia and Ukraine to know that I can count on your neutrality.
So the final terms of a friendship treaty will include the following.
Public display of friendship no earlier than turn 2 negotiation phase
EME, Syr, Irk neutral and demilitarized for turns 1 and 2, to be renewed after turn 2 if we both agree
North of the demilitarized zone, including Greece, will be mine, and south of the zone will be yours.
I hope these terms are acceptable to you. Thank you for your consideration!
-Turkey[/spoiler]Italy and I blustered at each other for a while when he tried to give me an ultimatum (war with Turkey or else war with Italy).
I’ve had some interesting communications with Poland:
[spoiler]Turkey doubled in size in one year. If they decide to turn on you I’m not sure what anyone else can do to help.
Sitnam,
Poland[/spoiler][spoiler]If.
AClockworkMelon,
EGYPT[/spoiler][spoiler]Pausanius’ response to Mardonius at The Battle of Plataea.
I hope your guys fight like Spartans.
Sitnam,
Poland[/spoiler][spoiler]A two fleet convoy against a knowingly hostile enemy is hard to pull off. I’m impressed.
Sitnam,
Poland[/spoiler]At one point in the game I came up with the idea to use Turkey’s alliance with Ukraine to feed Russia Ukraine’s moves, thus delaying a Ukrainian victory (which we felt would lead to him turning on Turkey). Russia didn’t buy the first bit of info I sent him (if he had he would have taken a territory just before a winter but it’s understandable- the Ukrainian move I sent him was unorthodox). I used the trust to feed him a false move a few turns later. Didn’t manage to do anything useful with that opportunity.
We were both sending each other our contact with other nations by midway through the game, not sure if Turkey held anything back from me. The most interesting was an email sent to him by Poland. 
There was more cool/funny/interesting stuff that happened that I can’t remember at the moment but I definitely enjoyed playing with you all. 
As the original British player I’ll chime in with my 2 cents.
I originally wanted to go all-in with Spain against France, with Germany as our stooge and subsequent victim and Italy as our co-belligerent. I’d convoy tons of armies onto the continent and go eastward, while Spain would end up being a major player in the Med. Well, it turned out that Spain made an error in the 1st fall turn (sadly one which I had offhandedly suggested during a brainstorming session) letting France into one of his home centers, and Germany turned out to be the novice from hell (I’ll leave it at that), which blew the balance I wanted to maintain in the West all to hell and significantly set back our timetable, esp. when France got 3 first year builds instead of the one that he should have gotten (if everyone had done their jobs).
I wasn’t sure of the intentions of the new Germany, and when I was unable to contest his play into the Low Countries, we came to a sort of approachment where we would (finally!) dissect France w/ Spain’s help, with the idea being that he would build tons of armies and become a monster to contest the Eastern alliance. But by then our collective momentum was very low and I knew that we would be disadvantaged (stalemated at best) by the arriving Juggernaut, as in fact happened. At that point real life intruded and I passed Britain off to another player, who then stabbed Spain-I don’t think it would have made much of a difference in the end if Britain had held off the knives as we simply didn’t have the breadth of centers to counterattack them.
Hey England, welcome back!
My assessment of the endgame is that Germany and England could have stalemated me and Egypt in the west, leaving me with too few centers for victory. I would have had to stab Egypt to get the last few centers, which would have involved a few turns of back-and-forth. I don’t think I could have held too long against Egypt/Germany/England in the west, but probably long enough to snatch a home center or two and slide in to victory sideways.
Heh, I hate playing Russia… no one trusts you at the start of the game… ![]()
I think I made a massive mess-up with my very first set of moves, which were supposed to be innocuous, but ended up putting most people’s hackles up, and I never recovered from there, at least not with my immediate neighbours. At one point I thought that England, Germany and I had the beginnings of what could have been a fruitful alliance, but then the other two had to pull out and their replacements decided to go in different directions.
While it was still on for me, I enjoyed it immensely, and would love to play again at some point. Maybe I will GM the next one?
Grim