Oh dear, Packers. On the other hand - I take back everything I said about Josh Freeman.
Tick Tick Tick Mike McCarthy.
Another special teams masterpiece.
When you are a Lion fan, you never get any enjoyment out of a good half or quarter. You are always thinking, “how are they going to fuck this one up”. You have no idea how depressing it is to watch them lose year after year.
The NFL is set up to prevent this from happening. It is socialistic. They share TV revenue so you get to keep all the gate and concessions for yourself. They have a draft system that allows the bad teams to get the best college players . They give the bad teams as easy a schedule as they can. They all have access to the same draft information and test college players out in groups. Do you know how badly you have to manage a NFL team to get to the bottom and stay there for so long?
Shit. I would have won FF this week if I’d started Tampa’s DST (2 TDs plus a bunch of sacks and 3 ints).
Screw you, GNB. I’m looking out for #1 from now on. No more of this “Don’t start players against your real life team”.
I didn’t argue that. They had reasons to cut him lose. This is a business. This does not make Favre a traitor in any way like the cheeseheads assert, however.
He is a traitor because he told the Packers he was retiring (then didn’t) and then went to play for the hated rivals (which he didn’t have to sign with). The intervening year at the Jets is irrelevant.
Had Favre come back and played for, say, the Bengals, the reception would have been much different at Lambeau this year.
He first wanted to unretire with the Packers, though. After they didn’t want him, he had no choice but to play for another team. Once he was no longer a Packer, he owed them no loyalty. Where do people even get this concept that a player’s loyalty to a team should last any longer than they paychecks that team gives him? The Vikings are the Packer’s hated rivals, yes, but the Packers had their chance to keep Favre and didn’t want him. They don’t get to complain about where he plays next.
That may or may not be true, but we shouldn’t be expected to cheer hius ass when he enters the stadium wearing the purple, either.
Man, I started this thread with such anticipation and it is slowly turning into a celebration thread for the Viking. I wanna throw up.
They put it into the trade with the JETS that they would have to give up 2 #1 draft picks if they traded him to the Vikings. So, after his late season collapse last year, he pretends once again to retire, thereby getting his release from the JETS. Then, he gets the prima donna treatment and signs with the team he wanted to play for all along, the Vikings.
Favre is a lying sack of shit who played the JETS to get what he wanted, his release. Then he played the Vikings so he could skip training camp. Such is life in Favre’s drama queendom.
But Favre is having a good year. The Vikings are a good team with him.
Yes. And Yes. None of which changes the fact he’s a lying sack of drama queen shit.
As a football fan who who loves watching football “season” I could give a crap about what happens in the off season. If Favre wants to hem/haw, lie, skip camp, play games, etc. he gets a full pass by me. As long as it’s between Feb.5th and Sept.1 . When the guy shows up for the season opener he’s 100% dedicated to the team he’s playing for for the next 17+ weeks.
How do you feel about it when it’s your team that he’s playing his games with? When it’s your team whose future at the most important position on the field he’s holding hostage with his indecision?
Right now, it IS my team, and I’m just fine with it. We’re 7-1 and have a season sweep of the Packers. Not much to complain about.
I also don’t have any illusions about what kind of loyalty he needs to show after this season. I know he’s a hired gun, and I’m fine with that. I’m happy to have him for however long he wants to stay.
It was my team. Born and raised in Milwaukee I watched the dismal Packers turn into something great with Favre at the helm. In the past few years when he was playing games my reaction was always the same, “I don’t really care what’s going on off the field. Call me on opening day and let me know who the starter is. I’ll live with it.”
The Packers have been better off without Favre, and (arguably) vice versa. Losing Favre gave them the chance to develop Rodgers, who is having a hell of a season when he’s not eating dirt. They absolutely made the right decision, regardless of the outcome of the 2 games vs. the Vikings in this one season.
Let it go, people. The Packers are floundering due to their O-Line and their lack of a pass rush in the 3-4 scheme. And kick return coverage. They (and their fans) need to focus on those issues now that #4 is truly behind them for the year.
The really bizarre thing is that somebody decided this week that it’s not all the Packers’ O-line to blame for all the sacks - Rodgers is holding the ball for too long. What? Are you effing kidding me? Rodgers doesn’t have time to hold onto the ball for too long!
It’s one-mississippi, two-mis… sack
Rodgers does hold the ball too long. I’d say at least half his sacks have come well after the “3 Mississippi” mark. He holds it for 5,6, even 7 seconds in the pocket sometimes. That makes his passer rating a little deceptive. He throws fewer picks and incompletions because he’s shy on the trigger if he doesn’t have a look he’s completely comfortable with. He’s kind of the opposite of Favre (at least how Favre was with the Packers) in that regard. Favre would try to hit anybody, anywhere, in any kind of coverage. Rodgers doesn’t like to gamble at all.
Almost as if he’s trying to be the “anti-Favre.” What he needs to be is decisive and not as risky as Favre.
As for Favre, whether or not what he did made sense, playing for the Vikings, no matter WHAT the reason or road that lead him there, was going to get him the traitor lable. The way it came about means that he gets even more shit. :eek:
Not that the Vikings care. They simply are laughing all the way to the NFC Champioinship game. :mad:
I do think in this game Rodgers held on to the ball too long, generally he doesn’t, but in this game, yes. But honestly I think a lot of the problems are the play calling. The coaches simply are not calling the short dumps, the “long hand-offs”, screens or other quick hitters to slow down the rush.