In the Batman case it is lame, but here? Nick Fury is not known as the creator of the Avengers, he is known as an American spy master. Most countries would not consider him a hero and would absolutely believe he was behind a terrorist attack. In real life someone like him would have absolutely been behind plenty of terrorist attacks all over the world.
Which is kind of the way a publisher’s interlocking comic books work, for better or for worse. When I was reading/collecting, my tastes ran to the more down-to-earth heroes and stories. Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Punisher, Captain America when Brubaker was writing it and so forth. I couldn’t give a monkey’s about anything happening in outer space or in Asgard. With the printed media, you can often (though not always) just stick to the titles you like and get a coherent story: The MCU goes back and forth on it, but there are times when unless you’ve watched 99% of the movies/TV shows, you’ll be lost in the next thing that comes out.
I know there’s the pretense of “it’s all one story” and maybe the Multiverse arc is shattering that for good, but the MCU is becoming more and more like Marvel’s published work in that, there’s a subtle understanding that it can’t ALL fit together. It does tickle me, as I watch Secret Invasion, that the goofiness of Guardians of the Galaxy 3 is happening offworld somewhere in the same reality, but it’ll never be acknowledged onscreen anywhere.
We did see Drax’s arm, G’iah even somehow copied his tattoos from his DNA…
But, but … oh never mind.
Good catch. “:Almost never and only tangentially” then lol
I think the Russo brothers missed out on a great moment of fan service by not having the stars of the Netflix Marvel shows appear on the battlefield during the climax of Endgame. That would have done my nerdy heart good.
He probably thought he killed all of the dissidents. He didn’t know that G’iah had healed herself after he shot her, and he massacred all the Skrulls in that cafeteria(?) after one of them had somewhat gently expressed reservations about his plan.
Since they needed those humans alive, I assume they were kept in a shielded place.
I’m sure that’s true, but I remember in the first episode, that member of the Council who objected to Gravik’s takeover said that they lost Skrullos in the first place because they were too warlike. So maybe they’re not all evil, but there must be something inherent in Skrull culture that does not play well with other races. I’m pretty disappointed, by the way, that that particular point didn’t really figure into the rest of the series at all.
Don’t know about the Mordo thing, but I’m pretty sure that the Vision plot is meant to be addressed in an upcoming series called “Vision Quest” and that Sharon Carter is going to figure into the upcoming Thunderbolts movie.
Speaking of which, I was sure hoping it would turn out Sharon and Swordsman were Skrulls.
Swordsman cause he treated the whole Hawkeye series like a dude in a holodeck adventure.
That was the best part!
Towards the very end, after the President gives his hateful and ill advised “kill em all” speech we see a vigilante group getting its ass kicked by a couple of John Wick type badasses. Were these anyone from Marvel, or were they random badasses?
On review, it’s just one badass, an Asian woman. Any Ideas
After consulting with IMDB and the Marvel Cinematic Universe Wiki, that was the unnamed (I think) Skrull impersonating Shirley Sagar. She appeared in episodes 2 and 6. She was the one Skrull who walked out of the Skrull Council after refusing to acknowledge Gravik as their new leader.
Thanks! I also looked it up and you are correct.
…here is a Hollywood Reporter article that, while mainly about Daredevil, goes into detail about what went wrong with Secret Invasion and: woof.
Yikes.
For those who don’t want to click, they’ve also just fired the head writers of Daredevil and are giving it a creative roboot. New writers, new directors…watch this space.
But this is probably good news in the long run. Because of this:
I’ve argued over-and-over again that the big problem with the Marvel shows was the lack of a showrunner from the writers room and significant deviations from what would be regarded as the norms when it comes to TV shows. So it looks like Kevin finally listened to me. 
That is good news. I was happy enough with this show, but the business just does better when they let the people who know what they’re doing actually do it.
I mean, whatever they were doing before worked just fine with Loki, Wandavision, Ms Marvel and She-Hulk.
…as I’ve argued before, both Loki and Wandavision were the two shows that worked most closely to the traditional showrunner model with a strong writers room handing over to a single director to close out production. (Writer Michael Waldron handing over to Kate Herron for Loki, Jac Schaeffer handing over to Matt Shakman for Wandavision)
The article points out that with She-Hulk, Jessica Gao was bought back-on-board for post-production and doing that righted the ship, and I’ve talked about what IMHO went wrong with Ms Marvel…and what saved it, over here.
The long-and-the-short-of it is that “when it worked” was when they stuck more closely to the traditional way of running television, and it “didn’t work” when they abandoned that and largely did their own thing. Secret Invasion was the epitome of that IMHO. Nothing about it worked. It was, for me anyway, the worst thing that the MCU had produced. And seeing what happened behind the scenes, what ended up on screen doesn’t surprise me at all.
What is funny is they are talking about the changes they are making to their streaming shows going forward (having a show runner and show bible etc.) like they are doing everyone a favor but these are things they now have to do because of the settled WGA strike.
Secret Invasion was a shit show, but people are vastly over inflating how bad the Disney shows have been. Most of them are top tier MCU content right up there with the best movies.
…which people?
I’ve loved all of the Marvel TV shows, with Secret Invasion being the notable exception. But some have been stronger than others, and all of them were affected by the decision to develop them without a writers-room-lead-showrunner. If you try to make a TV show the way you make a movie you are going to run into problems. For the early shows they managed to gloss over that, primarily by having a single director to close out the production. But that stopped happening post-Loki.
Isn’t “having a single director” the definition of moviemaking? It seems to me like what they were attempting, eschewing a strong writer/showrunner and eschewing a single director, is neither how you’re supposed to make a TV show nor how you’re supposed to make a movie.