I agree. Everyone seems to have a chip on their shoulder in real life. My excuse is that I’ve been sick for the last 3 weeks…that gives me the right to be ornery. Doesn’t it?
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I’ve just chalked it up to the weather. (Yeah, what WhyNot said.)
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This is a good point. I can’t imagine how y’all are keeping a civil tongue in your heads, with all the snow still going on up there.
Add all the gloom and doom in the media about the housing fiasco and associated economy woes, and no wonder people are bitchy.
Kid_A: 3 weeks?? Yeesh! Hope you feel better soon.
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Oh it’s the inanimate object that is stupid? Well, of course it is!
Let me rephrase it then…
What if someone said “The fat on that fat person is stupid and lame?”
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But that’s not the same thing at all as a piercing is inanimate and removable with little effort. Body fat is not. Allow me to channel Tyler Durden: You are not your piercing.
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As to this, nothing is wrong with an opinion. < refrains from pulling hair out > However, I do believe if you’ll not post # 7, there’s a bit more on par with “disgusting.” Like "“people who get them don’t like their faces” and something apparently being wrong with their brain. I’ll let you decide about disturbing.
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I’m not sure what kind of answer you expect from me as I did not say any of those things about pierced people and I don’t think any of those things about pierced people. Although I will say that excessive facial piercing (like the first two guys in this link), is probably a sign of some mental problem.
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Add all the gloom and doom in the media about the housing fiasco and associated economy woes, and no wonder people are bitchy.
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I was just coming back to speculate that the economy might have something to do with it. Money has gotten so tight lately around here, everyone is complaining about it, and my lack of disposable income is certainly making me more irritable than usual.
I blame Bush.
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But that’s not the same thing at all as a piercing is inanimate and removable with little effort. Body fat is not. Allow me to channel Tyler Durden: You are not your piercing.
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You are not your fat, either. You are not your clothes. You are not your job. See how that can be applied to almost anything?
I don’t care how easy things are to remove. It’s still a double standard. Make all the excuses you want to, it doesn’t make it right. You can choose to have a piercing just like you can choose to eat a double Whopper.
People who have too many piercings may have mental problems, people who get too much botox may have a mental problem, people who are 200% over their body weight may have a mental problem, etc etc. Anything done in excess can indicate a mental problem, what’s your point?
[QUOTE=faithfool]
Geez, I know I’m going to regret making a pit thread, but I’ve been shocked (shocked, I tell you!) lately at how much everyone seems to be acting unbelievably pissy to each other here on the boards.
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I suggest you’re simply forgetting all the incredible pettiness- and pissiness-drenched incidents of years past. There’s more political sniping now because of the upcoming U.S. elections, but not more than I recall from 2004.
I further suggest the mistaken idea that this particular message board is full of above-average people has become sufficiently ingrained that when some inevitably start start acting like idiots, it seems so… heavens, that’s just not DONE in these parts! The SDMB only looks above-average because we discourage the “LOLLLZZZ” and “how r u?” crap.
And facial piercings are embraced by trend-sucking morons, trying to display their noncomformance in a manner acceptable to their similarly-pierced peers.
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You are not your fat, either. You are not your clothes. You are not your job. See how that can be applied to almost anything?
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But you are your fat. I’m not a regular size person with a little fat on me for show. I’m a fuckin’ fatass. I know I shouldn’t be. My wife knows I shouldn’t be. Maybe random people know too.
Oh and my doctor knows because I have a family history of high blood pressure and heart disease. So yeah, I’m my fucking fat. That’s how fat works.
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But you are your fat. I’m not a regular size person with a little fat on me for show. I’m a fuckin’ fatass. I know I shouldn’t be. My wife knows I shouldn’t be. Maybe random people know too.
Oh and my doctor knows because I have a family history of high blood pressure and heart disease. So yeah, I’m my fucking fat. That’s how fat works.
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You think your fat defines who you are? So Justin isn’t a smart guy and a good husband, he’s just fat?
I think you better reread your Tyler quote and apply it accordingly.
[QUOTE=Sleeps With Butterflies]
You think your fat defines who you are? So Justin isn’t a smart guy and a good husband, he’s just fat?
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No, I said my fat is a part of my outward appearance that I can’t just not wear if I don’t want to. It is always a part of me until I start exercising and losing weight like I want to.
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I blame Bush.
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That is a SDMB approved judgment.
I blame creationists and Fred Phelps. I know I won’t get in trouble for blaming them either.
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Sorry, you snuck in on me while I was finishing up that post.
Well, as the author of this thread, I can only speak for myself and, as far as I can ever recall, I have never been judgmental about those things. As a matter of fact, I’ve fought for being respectful to the religious although I’m an agnostic (borderline atheist). I’ve never even been in an argument over SUVs or declawing cats and if I was to espouse my opinion on such things, there wouldn’t be a moral component to it.
Like with any of the stuff previously mentioned, I believe there’s a way to go about things without intentionally being insulting. But I’m probably barking up the wrong tree and have no problem admitting to that.
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But you have noticed that we, as a group, can be judgmental and snarky about a wide range of topics. That everyone has an opinion and some people will defend opinions that are quite contrary. Why would you expect anything different from a thread on piercing than one about children in restaurants? You choose to pierce, I choose to bring my children to restaurants. Doesn’t define either of us as irresponsible or inconsiderate or stupid.
If you invite people to share their thoughts, you really don’t have room to complain when they share their thoughts.
Now threadshitting I’ll admit is impolite and jerkish behavior. To come into a thread about someones cute kitten and say “the only good cat is a dead cat” is being an asshole. If I post “hey, what do you guys think about cats” and someone says “the only good cat is a dead cat” - well, I asked.
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No, I said my fat is a part of my outward appearance that I can’t just not wear if I don’t want to. It is always a part of me until I start exercising and losing weight like I want to.
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No, that’s not what you said. You said you are your fat. You aren’t. Just like someone with a piercing isn’t their piercing.
Some people feel it’s okay to judge people based on one, but not on another. All people judge whether they admit it or not. Some people just seem to have things they believe should be off limits.
Oh well, we’re not getting anywhere here.
[QUOTE=Sleeps With Butterflies]
No, that’s not what you said. You said you are your fat. You aren’t. Just like someone with a piercing isn’t their piercing.
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Yes I did, this is what I said, exactly:
“I’m not a regular size person with a little fat on me for show.”
But that’s all a piercing is, a piece of metal for show. It can be removed with no effort and pierced people routinely do it for job interviews, first dates, family reunions, funerals, weddings, etc, etc, etc.
You can’t do that with your fat and that’s why it’s off limits and piercing isn’t.
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Yes I did, this is what I said, exactly:
“I’m not a regular size person with a little fat on me for show.”
But that’s all a piercing is, a piece of metal for show. It can be removed with no effort and pierced people routinely do it for job interviews, first dates, family reunions, funerals, weddings, etc, etc, etc.
You can’t do that with your fat and that’s why it’s off limits and piercing isn’t.
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Wow, did you read the rest of YOUR post? Here it is, try again. I’ll bold for emphasis so you can see what YOU said.
[QUOTE=Justin_Bailey]
But you are your fat. I’m not a regular size person with a little fat on me for show. I’m a fuckin’ fatass. I know I shouldn’t be. My wife knows I shouldn’t be. Maybe random people know too.
Oh and my doctor knows because I have a family history of high blood pressure and heart disease. So yeah, I’m my fucking fat. That’s how fat works.
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So I guess you see tattoos and piercing as different things? You can’t take your tattoo off when you have a job interview, etc. Some of them can be covered up by clothing, but not all. So are tattoos off limits with fat? What about people who tan way, way too much? They can’t make that go away instantly. Are they in the “get out of judgement free” group?
What if someone started a thread saying that they were going to intentionally make themselves fat by eating crappy food and not getting any exercise and then asked for opinions?
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Wow, did you read the rest of YOUR post? Here it is, try again. I’ll bold for emphasis so you can see what YOU said.
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Yeah, we’re not getting anywhere with that. I know what I said. “You are your fat” was my emphasis that you can’t get rid of it easily.
[QUOTE=Sleeps With Butterflies]
So I guess you see tattoos and piercing as different things? You can’t take your tattoo off when you have a job interview, etc. Some of them can be covered up by clothing, but not all. So are tattoos off limits with fat? What about people who tan way, way too much? They can’t make that go away instantly. Are they in the “get out of judgement free” group?
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Any reasonable tattoo can be covered up, but if you tattoo your neck or your face and expect employment in any kind of professional setting (without knowledge of the employer’s approval), then you’re just an idiot.
As for people who tan way, way too much. I think they look ridiculous, but no, I wouldn’t say anything to them because tanning takes a long time to fade.
For that matter, I wouldn’t say anything to the pierced person either. But if they (or the tanner or the fattie) asked my opinion, well…
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I blame the U.S. presidential elections! 
All kidding aside, it seems to get a bit more pricklish on the Dope during an election year. Not much, just enough one can tell it.
Outside of that, this board goes through cycles. We’ll be back to Kindler, Gentler before you know it.
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Of course it is the presidential election. Each issue (alligator) is put in front of the voter to determine its anxiety quotient by the expert Hollywood script writers in the employ of the candidates. With this type of information they can target their message in hopes of motivating enough voters to carry the day by voting against who is hated the most. Of course we lemmings keep marching to the sea.
When we lemmings should take positive action and drain the f..king swamp.
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What if someone started a thread saying that they were going to intentionally make themselves fat by eating crappy food and not getting any exercise and then asked for opinions?
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Some wiseguy would say Morgan Spurlock beat him to it.
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That is a SDMB approved judgment.
I blame creationists and Fred Phelps. I know I won’t get in trouble for blaming them either.
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Good on ya.
This has become a running joke in my family. Even my republican spouse has joined in. Whatever ails ya, whatever frustrates ya, whatever makes you cranky, it’s all Bush’s fault. He’s a first-class ass, so he gets all the credit for bad weather, slow traffic, headache or flu, a broken nail, reaching the bottom of a tub of ice cream…you name it, he’s your man.