Besides these two, what other sequels were there where the 1st movie is a movie in the sequel’s universe? And has that ever resulted in a good movie?
I can think of two:
I haven’t see Human Centipede 2, so I cannot judge it. I don’t recall Blair Witch 2 being a good movie, but it’s been a long time since I saw it.
Does “Wes Craven’s New Nightmare” count?
How about Scream 2? The film begins with the premiere of Stab, a movie depicting the events of the first Scream.
Blazing Saddles is kinda its own sequel.
BW-2 was the only one that I was aware of (having somehow missed HC-2). Personally, I thought BW-2 was a fine movie. Not nearly as innovative as the original, but perfectly serviceable as a standard horror film. And it featured a pre-*Burn-Notice *Jeffrey Donovan!
Brooks did the same thing in Spaceballs – Dark Helmet watches a video of Spaceballs.
Though not a sequel, Galaxy Quest fits otherwise – it refers to the existing TV show.
On TV, Doctor Who exists in a universe where the BCC broadcast Doctor Who (“Remembrance of the Daleks”).
In Return of the Living Dead, the movie Night of the Living Dead exists in-universe, and is referenced by the characters when they first see the zombies.
Halloween 3. A TV shows a commercial for the first Halloween.
(Halloween 3 is a sequel in name only. It has nothing to do with the rest of the series)
…but it’s not a sequel–it’s just in a similar genre (horror and horror comedy). It’s like considering SCREAM a sequel to Halloween for the same reason.
Yes, a perfect example.
Another perfect example.
It’s not a movie, but in the second volume of Don Quixote, Don Quixote is well-known because of the first book.
Likewise, the main character in *The Vampire Lestat *is very aware that he was made famous by Interview with the Vampire.
That depends largely on whether you ask John Romero or John Russo.
The Neverending Story 2
The movie of Bewitched was set in a universe with the TV show version existed.
It’s not a movie, but the third season of a Digimon (yes, a kid’s show) is set in a universe where all the other Digimon stuff was fiction. And that season is the absolute best of Digimon. It has the most three dimensional characters, and an actually interesting storyline, rather than character stereotypes and just a generic adventure plot with baddies of the week.
Not exactly the same thing, but sometimes certain comic book characters will have their exploits chronicled in an in-universe comic series which winds up looking a hell of a lot like back issues of same series.
In one the Sherlock Holmes stories, Holmes makes a dismissive comment about Watson’s book “A Study in Scarlet”. ASiS was the title of Doyle’s first novel* about the adventures of H&W.
This comment was echoed in the BBC’s recent re-imagining of S.H. set in contemporary times, “A Study in Pink”.
*Actually, the novel length story was originally published serialized in a magazine.
Not only that but Uncle Arther and Aunt Clara actually existed and were related to Isobel Bigelow who played Samantha on the revived Bewitched. Which means that either one of her relatives was a writer on the show and based characters off the family (which would explain why her parents never let her watch it) or movie script went threw several revisions by a committee of hacks.