Got link?
I thought it was in this thread but apparently not. I’ll see if I can figure out how to Google stuff on the boards.
Yay!
+1 pittings for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
You will find, of course, that as I’m fascinated with the history and politics of the Middle East, and tend to read voraciously, I take part in those sorts of threads. Of course not all of them, but sure, I play with the ones that interest me. Whether it’s talking about Israeli history and current events, or Iranian, or Lebanese, or the Muslim Brotherhood, or what have you. You don’t like it? So sad.
Now, you’re lying about me not using cites or detailed logical chains to make my points, but that’s okay. I’m kinda used to that sorta stuff. You’re also lying about how I allegedly challenge any criticism of my “beloved” nation (can’t you idiots come up with some sort of new canard other than Dual Loyalty?) You’ll find, if you were at all intellectually honest, that I’m on record as saying that the US should threaten to cut off all aid if Israel doesn’t immediately stop settlement expansion, for example. Clearing up ignorance/dishonesty is hardly the same as supporting anything Israel does. Not that your fellow travelers don’t love to make that accusation. Much easier to lie and invent a position I don’t actually hold than engage with my real one, it seems.
Oh, you got me. Not only Dual Loyalty but I’m secretly a member of the Israel intelligence service.
This is a lie.
You will never find any such cite because it never happened.
Likewise, this too is a lie.
Work has been slow, and I’ve read an awful lot of posts today.
This is the dumbest.
Congratulations.
Oh, and I notice Elvis dropped a load here, okay:
Of course, you’re lying through your teeth.
Why, do you think, you and yours tend to lie so very often in order to make your claims? Doesn’t that show you something about your position, that it can only be propped up via lies? Why do you think it is that you and your fellow travelers have seized on the particularly stupid and easily disproved lie that I support Israel in everything they do and hate every Arab on the face of the Earth? Does it not give you pause that you’re reduced to such filthy lies?
Oh, and learn the definition of jingoistic, you idiot. What, did you just hear a new word and decided to use it for fun?
I also strongly support the Iranian people’s drive for a democratic, western-friendly non-nuclear state. And I strongly support the Lebanese peopel’s right to live their lives without the Iranian backed Hezbollah gangsters dominating the nation or setting up a separate spy-network for its telecom industry, linking Iranian proxy military forces all over the region. And I strongly support any Palestinians who would renounce violence, accept Israel’s right to exist, clamp down on incitement to genocide and religious hatred and come back to the negotiating table so that there might be a two state solution with equitable water, agricultural and economic and security rights for both parties. I guess that means I’m also secretly Iranian, Lebanese and Palestinian and intensely patriotic for my home nations of Iran, and Lebanon, and Palestine, too, you mouthbreating swine?
Probably the only thing dumber than the Dual Loyalty shit is the “Finn is really Israeli!” shit. Good lord but you’re stupid.
Ahhh, that reminds me of your long trollish bout in a recent thread. You’d post drivel, like how Jordan gave up its claim to the West Bank in order to support Palestinian statehood, and I’d respond that, no, in fact they effectively gave up their claim in '67 when they could have simply accepted it in exchange for peace with Israel and then given it to the Palestinians. And that, before that, they’d been the ones for nearly two decades who’d squashed Palestinian natinalism and whose invasion of the Mandate territory, along with Egypt, specifically prevented the formation of any Palestinian state in the first place.
Then I pointed out that a year before the first intifada the Jordanians were about to negotiate to take back the West Bank for themselves, not for the Palestinians, and then when it looked like the Palestinians might start a civil war in Lebanon, they then issued a rhetorical deceleration about Palestinian rights to the West Bank rather than simply accepting Israel’s offer, taking back the West Bank and then actually letting the Palestinians have sovereignty on it.
There were numerous other such issues in the thread.
Of course, all through that thread you refused to actually engage with anything I said and simply feigned stupidity over and over again and pretended that you were unable to comprehend English and couldn’t respond to what I was saying. Even while I was quoting your exact comments, in context with the words they were in response to, you did your little troll-schtick and simply responded with variants of “I dun understand. Wut you reply to?”
Notice, for instance, this exchange. First you inaccurately claimed several things, and I pointed out why you were completely wrong. You then you feigned non-comprehension, complete with some idiocy about how stating that Egypt is not Palestine, the Sinai is not the West Bank, and the situations weren’t the same is “begging the question” (you advanced syphilitic baboon). I then clarified, at length just why you were wrong. I then went the extra mile and clarified, in context, exactly what you were responding to and what, in context, your post was in response to. I even used bullet points.
Your response, of course, was to troll me by pretending to be stupid. Well, stupider than you actually are, at least. I pointed out that I’d quoted your own words in the exact context they were used in and explained why my analysis was correct. You then lied and trolled some more by playing at being retarded.
I must say, your trolling tactic is an interesting and new one. Normally folks who are wrong in ME threads just keep blabbering on. You decided that, when proven wrong, you’d simply blabber on and pretend to be too stupid to understand how your own posts were being responded to. You did things like stupidly lie and claim I was trying to change the subject, and then you tried to change the subject to Mandela. Or Germany. Or whatever. When I pointed out that you still refused to address let alone retract your errors and were now trying to change the subject, your response was yet again to troll by feigning (greater levels of) stupidity and non-comprehension, that time dishonestly asking for a link to a post that I’d not only linked to, quoted, and analyzed in context, but you’re already ignored once via your little troll-game of playing dumb. The same pattern went on through the rest of the thread.
So thanks for posting in this thread and jogging my memory, schmuck.
Your trollish behavior deserved honest and accurate identification which I could not do in GD.
P.S. Hillary Clinton eats kittens for breakfast.
Hey, Alessan, for my own private edification, what do the Israeli history books say about the scrap metal merchants on the eastern seaboard and/or the mafia in NY during that era? As it was a tiny bit criminal, there’s not much about it over here in public.
I’m happily carrying on the family tradition as much as I can with a certain other situation that happens to be going on at this moment.
Honest to God, while I hope and pray for another Armenian Genocide thread, I am not FinnAgain. Sure, it’s obvious because he puts more effort into his (many, MANY :rolleyes:) posts, but I just wanted to make it clear, no matter how much I might want another Armenian Genocide thread, because they attract NEW loons, not just the ones we are used to.
Finn, you’re one of my favorite posters, but when I see bullshit, I have to call bullshit. And this is bullshit:
It is simply not possible for ElvisL1ves to pretend to be stupider than he actually is. You can’t get lower than his normal, baseline intelligence. Frankly, you do your argument no good when you ignore such rudimentary natural laws.
Dude, I’ve read about and admire your grandpa (Opa?). After the war the difference between leftover crap and scrap was miniscule–well into the late 60s ads in PopSci regaled us with tales of Jeeps and Harleys still covered with Cosmoline and to be bought for peanuts. I often disagree with the Govt of Israel, but I accept how they, in the ways of all of history, regained a homeland.
OTOH, as a Christian, I have to take umbrage at some of the actions by both the Israeli (primarily Jewish) and Palestinian (mostly Muslim, but with a minority of Christians) sides. My religion, at the main level, supports Lutheran schools and hospitals in the Occupied Territories.
And, as I recall saying when Israeli troops and Palestinian troops fought it out at the Church of the Nativity, in Bethlehem, “You Muslims and Jews can kill each other all you want, but now you’re stomping on OUR territory!”
Miller: thanks, and that is a good point. Perhaps Elv1s really is as stupid as I thought he was pretending to be.
Actually… that thought scares me a bit more than that well known horror movie, Idiocracy. I might just choose to go on believing that he only acts dumb because he know it annoys people.
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No-one ever pits me over Arab-Israeli debates. I feel left out.
FinnAgain Is one of the most knowledgeable people about the state of Israel that I have ever met.
You’re a moron.
I’m kinda surprised that this is Finn’s first Pitting as well.
Regards,
Shodan
PS - Malthus, you have been, but the Jewish conspiracy in control of the media deletes them.
Yes, he is one of the dumbest members of this board. I have diminished myself by actually arguing with him. He is best ignored.
Awww, cheer up.
We’ll bake you a cake at the next Secret Israelis Involved in Zionist Message Board Conspiracies Due To Their Perfidious Dual Loyalty Society*.
*We so need to get a better name. SIIZMBCDTTPDLS really doesn’t roll off the tongue.
I was thinking, maybe something like the Nefarious Underground Dominion of No-good Israel’s Key Spies.
Ya know… NUDNIKS.
Gotta concur, I was arguing with the fellow until someone (I believe xtisme) set me straight.
Cite? I mean, I’m a guy who calls Israel an apartheid state, and I’ve been on the end of some criticism for it, and yet I can’t recall anything like that.
The whole “scrap metal military procurement” issue was certainly covered by my high school history classes, albeit mainly from the point of view of the young Hagganah operatives - like current Israeli president Shimon Peres - who would comb European and American junkyards for useful matיriel and smuggle it out of the country. It’s generally portrayed as a classic example of proto-Israeli ingenuity.
As for Mob activity, it’s more of a footnote. It mainly comes up in connection with the whole Meyer Lansky business.
Strictly speaking, the mafia’s involvement was, in and of itself, a footnote to the work done by Alper, Slavin, Sonneborn, Schalit and others. Slater’s book, The Pledge is actually a great read (my apt is a disaster area currently and I can’t find my copy to cite any specifics)