Elvis, Elvis, Elvis… do you have any idea how many shekels I’ve had to take from Mossad, how much of their dirty work I’ve had to do in order to earn this Pit thread? This is about me and my nefarious Great Debates behavior, not how you’re really fucking stupid. You go be really stupid in a bunch of other threads and, if you’re lucky, you can earn your own Pit threads.
And, really, you’ve already made your point, we get it. Even historically, blatantly obvious symbolism is totally lost on you, because you’re either a moron or you just play one on the Dope for lulz.
Now go away and let’s get this thread back on topic - my dastardly Mossad plan to infiltrate and then post on a low traffic geeky mainly-US message board.
I mean, everyone knows Mossad pays peanuts for this stuff. If you want to get into the real bucks, do what I do - be an evil Big Pharma minion and take payoffs to denigrate alternative medicine online. I get accused of this from time to time on another board, but if they only knew the vast sums I’ve acquired from my Pharma masters…:eek::eek::eek:
To be fair, it’s the fringe benefits that really make my henchman career worth while. I mean, someone needs to capture all of those Palestinian infants that I BBQ and serve up to my Zionst coven during the summer months. I’ve tried waiting for some of those tykes to show up on their own, but it never happens. If not for the Mossad shipments of fresh Palesitnan toddlers, I’d be stuck grilling, I dunno, steaks or something.
Different strokes for different folks, I always say.
The important part is that we’re obeying the Zionist directive to consider all Palestinians as sub-human.
A former poster once rather coyly and backhandedly suggested that I was a crypto-Islamist, here it spread disinformation on the “religion of peace.”
Now I can neither confirm nor deny receiving bushel-loads of cash from shadowy Albanian Islamist activists to discuss the finer points of the Rashidun Caliphate on the SDMB. But it is interesting that Mossad finds my propag…uh…factual posts alarming enough that they had to resort to dispatching their own counter-intelligence agent.
I’d like to make a joke, but to be honest, since you’re reading this thread I’d also like to voice my continued utmost admiration for your scholarship and knowledge about Islam and the Middle East. You are a true treasure for this message board and your presence is a benefit to all of us.
With that being said, Malthus’ posts about how the Palestinians were really no better than sub-human, equivalent to mere canines as a matter of fact, have filled the Mossad quota-for-evil for this month. We were given a holiday and have been engaging in recreational evil, off the clock. We will resume opposing you starting in July.
All I can say is the Israeli was (probably fake) named Mordechai, and he wore a big fur coat. (which fascinated my dad, who was knee-high at the time.)
Hey, remember the story of the AA gun and the Cosmoline?
Lucky! All I got was the true story of how the CIA killed Che, and a lot of things that made no sense about Vietnam till decades later. Well… and family history and legend. (Which, as I’ve said, gets weirder and weirder the deeper I look into it.)
Mordecai, by the way, is an important man to me. You see, my dad, a nice Irish boy, grew up and fell in love with a Jewish girl. I kind of suspect that the two are connected… not least in getting approval from his father, as well.
Which, in yet another tangent reminds me. Anyone got any good ways to track family, on the Jewish side of things? Having issues going back before 1900… everybody who didn’t come here died and the towns sowed with blood and salt.
You’re telling me! The man is an absolute freakin’ demon, he’s in his late 80’s now and has a handshake like a vice grip, a mind like a young scholar and a thorough knowledge and awareness of regional politics and history. Not to mention any of his other traits. If I was a quarter the man he is, I’d be doing something much cooler than switching career tracks from private to public school teaching while being poor. IIRC, by the time he was my age he’d been jailed by the British, the Syrians, conducted business with the mafia, ran an international smuggling ring and made a large number of high power contacts in the business (and criminal) worlds. I once sat next to Deborah Meier on a plane ride and showed her the curriculum that I’d drawn up for critical thinking lessons.
TBH I’ve seen you mention something of the sort before, but I forget exactly what the details of your family’s history are. Can you clear up my ignorance please?
It’s probably very, very difficult. We can trace our family back to the late 1100’s (we were evidently book makers and had our own family crest), but not before then. And that’s only because my family on my father’s side managed to survive HaShoah by being among the first wave of Aliyah (and among the first families to Rishon L’Tzion). On my mother’s side, we know that her paternal grandfather and grandmother were born in the Ukraine and, during the Pogroms, their village decided to send all the children to America. In accordance with that, they decided to pair them all up and marry them on the spot. But beyond my maternal grandfather’s grandparents, we have no records since that branch of the family was wiped out by the Nazis. Likewise, my mother’s mother saw the Nazis drag her brother away and, later, her mother hang herself and then served as a nurse during WW II which pretty much shattered her sanity. We don’t know much about that branch of the family, either, other than that they were also wiped out by the Nazis.
The best bet, I’d wager, would probably be the Mormon genealogy project. Determining Jewish ancestry for branches of a family tree that stayed in Europe will probably be difficult verging on impossible, though.
Father’s side, direct line, goes back to 1695-1700 in America. (I can claim Mayflower descent, and my father’s mother’s side founded New Salem, and later left down hurriedly before being accused of being witches.) Before that, there’s a… little hiccup involving not being able to find the boat we came over on, because of… issues. (Hail Oliver Cromwell.) Before that, we wind up being Barons, and before that… Well, it gets complicated, but it’s a long story of being somewhere, picking the wrong or right side to support, and then being kicked out of Ireland and heading to Scotland to survive, or the other way round. At some point it becomes completely mythic, as my last name means ‘Son of Ir’, who Ireland is theoretically named after. (Golam, the Spanish Soldier myth.) Going back a little further we wind up in Babel, where my furthest (incredibly mythic) ancestor was cured by Moses when bit by a snake.
… what?
Seriously, it’s all legit till about 880, and before that… well, it’s mostly unsubstantiated.
Mother’s side came over in 1900-1905, if I recall correctly, first rabbi in Mt. Kisco, or some deal like that, (seems improbable, but hey), but Mom really doesn’t feel like cooperating. From Latvia. Last name seems german, so I’m guessing probably the Prussian influx.
As far as how they met? There’s a car sport called a ‘hillclimb’. You take your car, and drive it as far up a muddy steep hill as you can. Then it slides back down.
They both had yellow Porsche 914s and met at one that way. (Why they had the cars? Dad was a former VW/Porsche mechanic / Air Force fighter jock. Mom was a JAP. Trust me. Perfect model thereof. Dad liked the mid-engined agility, Mom had it bought for her by her doting father.)
Any other questions, or is that strange enough? Trust me, I can make it stranger.
Malthus: as you took part in the rather fruitless attempt to get Abe to accept that mere words didn’t actually do anything when it came to the time/manner/geography/etc… of the creation of Israel, I figured I’d share a fun little tidbit.
Re-reading The Pledge I stumbled across a passage that I’d forgotten. UNSCOP had only recommended Partition in the first place, and many of the smaller nations who voted for 181 only did so after meeting with Zionist leadership who promised them that the Jews of the region would be able to ensure their own defense. Without that promise on the table, UNSCOP never would have recommended Partition in the first place and the nations that authorized it wouldn’t have signed off on 181.
Major Aubrey Eban (later to be named Abba Eban) told the Sonneborn Institute that:
It was helped by the fact that our family members always made sure to legibly sign their names to the attendance list at the annual Tombstone Plot-O-Thon.
Thanks, that’s certainly strange enough.
As it is I’m much less knowledgeable about European history than I am about ME history, and the specific importance of a few references went right over my pointy little head.
Oh, and don’t take this the wrong way (i’m not aiming to pick a fight since obviously you’re not insulting your own mother) but the word “Jap” is a slur. It’s generally less… shall we say problematic to use a term like “spoiled rich girl” rather than “Jewish American princess.”
Awww, still upset that you had the audacity to lie through your teeth about the conmen gentiles who run “Jews for Jesus” and try to pretend that their cult is compatible with Judaism?
Upset that I caught you lying in support of those scumfucks who you financially support when you claimed that all they were doing is supporting “biblical” or “cultural” Judaism when, in fact, they had appropriated the modern observance of Jewish High Holy Days and the Bat Mitzvah ceremony to their cause of tricking Jews into becoming Christians?
Upset that you are so dishonest and devoted to the absolute annihilation of Judaism that not only do you support those evil bastards, but when I repeatedly quizzed you on why you were lying and asked you to retract your lies, you routinely tried to change the subject?
Perhaps you’re annoyed that you were forced to come up with outlandish strawmen (“well, you obviously have a problem with intermarriage/conversion!”) because I objected to the deliberate, methodical program of lies and malicious fraud which you materially support and which aims at the total annihilation of Judaism through deception?
Yah. How very wrong of me :rolleyes:
Best that us Jews don’t get all uppity now, and that we appreciate that you’re kind enough to spend all the time and money designing a program of trickery and malice designed to bring about the end of Judaism itself. Why, how rude it would be of us to object.
I’ve already said all that really needs to be said about your particular brand of repugnant deception.
There is no such thing as “Messianic Jewishness”, just lying gentiles, like yourself, who try to trick Jews into giving up their religion by claiming that you can be gentile and a Jew at the same time. “Messianic Jews” means “Christians”, idiot.
You and yours are contemptible scum whose agenda includes the destruction of my people through lies and fraud. And you have the nerve that, after you show that your goal is the annihilation of Judaism via a program of deliberate and methodical deception, that I am “trash talking” and a “guttersnipe” for objecting? I guess the “good Jews” just politely accept the actions of evil Christians whose goals include lying in order to trick them, and especially their children when they are most vulnerable and on their own for the first time, out of Judaism, eh?
It doesn’t matter that you were wrong for pages and pages, you still offer it as a cite.