Severe Hijack, about US borders, moved to pit

[Airbeck]

Would you be willing to be the one in that spot pulling the trigger yourself to kill all of these desperate people? Or does letting someone else do it for you make you feel like less of a sociopath when you advocate for these deaths?

[The_Other_Waldo_Pepper]

@Airbeck

Would you be willing to be the one in that spot pulling the trigger yourself to kill all of these desperate people? Or does letting someone else do it for you make you feel like less of a sociopath when you advocate for these deaths

Whether I do it or someone else does makes no difference to me.

[Babale]

@Chronos

So what made those ancestors of mine American? A philosophy, a mindset, a dream. They were willing to risk everything to come to a new place where they didn’t fit in, to work hard, to ensure that their descendants would have a better life than them. That dream was what made them American, and it’s the same dream shared by the folks who come across our border to flee oppression, and to work our farms. And so, those folks today are Americans, just as my ancestors were.

Amen.

[Miller]

@The_Other_Waldo_Pepper

And as for my reaction to that choice, I kind of figured my position inclined more to “cold indifference” or “beneath consideration” talk than to, y’know, “burning hatred”.

Sociopathy sounds most accurate. That’s a deeply inhumane attitude.

[Airbeck]

Complete indifference to the unnecessary and extra-judicial killing of desperate people.

Yup, sociopath is the right word.

[wguy123]

@The_Other_Waldo_Pepper

Whether I do it or someone else does makes no difference to me.

It’s hard to believe there are people like you in the world.

Kill them all and let god sort them out.

[crowmanyclouds]

@The_Other_Waldo_Pepper

Whether I do it or someone else does makes no difference to me.

How can you shoot women or children TOWP? Easy! Ya just don’t lead 'em so much! AmIright? And the only thing you feel when you shoot a child is recoil.

[Czarcasm]

@crowmanyclouds

And the only thing you feel when you shoot a child is recoil.

While a sane human would recoil at the thought of shooting a child.

[Cheesesteak]

@Airbeck

Would you be willing to be the one in that spot pulling the trigger yourself

Keep talking like this and the poor guy is going to mess all over his keyboard.

[Monty]

@Omar_Little

ICE and other law enforcement agencies should enforce the immigration laws that have been established.

Do you not understand that the law provides for a way for undocumented aliens to apply for a different status, such as asylum?

[Max_S]

@MrDibble

In what way, pray tell, is being caught in razor wire not a punishment?

Punishment must be inflicted, no? Placing razor wire on the border is not punishment in the same sense that pushing a person into the wire would be.

~Max

[Max_S]

@iiandyiiii

Are all or most of these children criminals? Do they deserve to be called “illegal…”?

For the record, illegal does not imply criminal. It has that connotation in a lot of contexts but technically they are not the same. In particular, a person’s presence in the U.S. can be adjudged illegal (synonym: unlawful). That person may be locked up on reasonable suspicion including proximity to the border and lack of identity papers, denied access to a lawyer free of charge, and even deported, without actually being convicted of any crime.

~Max

[Max_S]

@The_Other_Waldo_Pepper

@Airbeck

Would you be willing to be the one in that spot pulling the trigger yourself to kill all of these desperate people? Or does letting someone else do it for you make you feel like less of a sociopath when you advocate for these deaths

Whether I do it or someone else does makes no difference to me.

Now this, shooting the people in cold blood, this is definitely punishment. I see a fucking bright line between gunning down unarmed refugees that attempt to cross the border, Berlin-wall-style, and erecting razor wire or other potentially lethal but passive obstacles.

~Max

[Czarcasm]

@Max_S

Now this, shooting the people in cold blood, this is definitely punishment. I see a fucking bright line between gunning down unarmed refugees that attempt to cross the border, Berlin-wall-style, and erecting razor wire or other potentially lethal but passive obstacles.

What about planting landmines along the border?

[Max_S]

Mines are almost as bad, in some ways maybe worse. I don’t like the idea of razor wire barriers, but at least they are highly visible. People know what they’re risking. Fences, walls, and barriers can be erected without lethal intent. Mines, though? That would be very difficult to argue.

~Max

[Czarcasm]

Is the razor wire visible above the water?

[Max_S]

I would change my mind if it isn’t. (Including at night.)

~Max

[MrDibble]

@Max_S

Punishment must be inflicted, no?

Or imposed, yes.

@Max_S

Placing razor wire on the border is not punishment in the same sense that pushing a person into the wire would be.

It’s not “placing razor wire on the border”, it’s “hiding razor wire underwater in the known path of people”. It’s not a fence, it’s a land mine field. And it’s very much inflicted on people taking that path.

Especially when they already avoided the wire and are then pushed back into it.

Just fuck off with defending the indefensible for shits and giggles. It doesn’t show your intellectual superiority. Merely your inhumanity. It’s so godsdamn tedious. And you were doing so well lately.

[Monty]

@MrDibble

It’s not “placing razor wire on the border”, it’s “hiding razor wire underwater in the known path of people”.

And evidently, it’s also “placing that razor wire in another sovereign nation’s territory”.

[Superdude]

Meme I recently saw:

Amazing how “I’d kill for my kids” is a widely accepted and agreed upon ideal for Americans, but somehow “I’d illegally cross a border for my kids” is a big no-no.