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Ginormous bump:
The letter isn’t word-for-word the same as @Shagnasty’s stupid story, but it’s so similar, I wonder what the hell’s going on here.
Maybe Dear Prudence was struggling for a topic, did a search and uncovered Shagnasty’s anecdote.
Anyway, Archie Goodwin often enjoyed a glass of milk in the Nero Wolfe novels (though perhaps not while out on the town), and he came off as quite the sophisticate, as well as enjoying noteworthy female companionship.
And if one does accept the premise, just what is a non-drinker supposed to do, at a social event in a bar? There are many reasons why a person might be a non-drinker, but in most of them, just drinking anyway would not be a casual or easy decision. Is the faux pas in ordering a non-alcoholic beverage, or just in ordering some specific non-alcoholic beverage such as milk? Are there sophisticated non-alcoholic beverages? What are they?
Lime-and-soda :-p
The link in the OP no longer works. What was the topic of the original thread where Shagnasty posted his anecdote?
Here:
The trick to ordering a glass of milk in a swanky restaurant is to ask for something like Chilean mountain goat milk, and when they don’t have that say “Well then I guess I’ll just take whatever you have.”
It’s a constant annoyance being a non-drinker who isn’t an alcoholic. I always have to give my little speech on a first date about how I have never had an alcohol problem, I just don’t like it. Now if I were invited to a bar, I’d tell the them that I am happy to join them and then give them my speech. Maybe then they’d choose somewhere different.
I’m just here because I wanted to see
… 18 years later…
Carry on with whatever it is this is all about.
Now, I’m trying to wrap my head around a non-drinker who IS an alcoholic. What does that even look like?
Alcoholics who are in recovery don’t drink.
In other words an alcoholic that is on the wagon.
My Uncle was this way. He went 30+ years once he stopped.
My BIL on the other hand should never go to a bar, he use to fall off the wagon in a light breeze.
The other week, I saw an article (which I can’t find now) about how some bartenders have developed “sophisticated” non-alcoholic cocktails, sometimes called mocktails. They’re just as ridiculously complicated as real cocktails and also cost twenty bucks or more. So perhaps one option is for the non-drinker to figure out which one of these they might like.
A ginger ale was always the goto for a designated driver or non-drinker.
I guess that is no longer true.
I’ve had those a couple of times and they were quite good but I have no interest in faking it just to fit in. People (not you) who want to judge me because anything alcoholic tastes terrible to me and I happen not to enjoy the effects of that particular drug can fuck off.
You could also arrange with the bartender to serve you milk, but to call it “Korova Plus”, while explaining to your date that it’s your favorite beverage when out with your droogs.
Ironically, this thread is almost old enough to drink.
I don’t really drink either (except for a small glass of wine with friends) but there is a certain amount of theatricality and showmanship in crafting those ridiculous cocktails and some non-drinkers want to be involved.
Sarsaparilla. Unless you’re in one of those really tough bars. Then you order a large glass of gin, served with a human hair in it.