@Proffessor Pepperwinkle, you asked Chronos about vote all and unvote all. Why would you want to vote all? To start in suspicion of everyone and then eliminate as you start to trust people?
Unvote all I assume could be used more often, like if you had two or three votes down and came back after dozens of new posts that changed your mind. But I’m wondering what utility you see in voting all.
@Prof.Pepperwinkle that is.
Chronos, as a tyro to this game, I must ask: do we have any notion of the span of roles available to the (I assume) major characters of the game? Or do we figure them out as we go?
I am excited to play. I remember games here quite some time ago.
I am not familiar with how a multivote might work
You’ll figure them out as we go. Well, hopefully.
Oh, and I missed @Prof.Pepperwinkle 's question about vote/unvote all. Unvote all is fine, but vote all feels to me likely to just cause a mess. If you really must, then please cast all the votes individually.
Oh, and as to the quiet, do note that some people are, due to their real-life schedules, less active on the weekends, and the game is just started. Some folks haven’t even checked in yet. I wouldn’t worry about it until sometime tomorrow; hopefully they’ll show up.
And I am currently living about 15 miles away from Verona, WI.
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We used to have multivote at Giraffe. One host (Pleonast) was especially fond of the process. I don’t think it usually made much of a difference. However, we have been warned that this game is intentionally vague, so perhaps it ties into some unknown factor.
So much reminiscence!
But, alas! so little play.
This will be steep learning curve.
It’s kind of like a class reunion. You remember some people well. You have kept in touch with others. Some you do not exactly recall except in some vague way. Others turn out to be not former classmates at all — perhaps spouses or even the caterers.
Back in the day I’d VOTE ALL in Pleonast’s game because
Upshot is, it really didn’t make a difference. It did give players something to talk about; it certainly made everyone suspicious of me.
UNVOTE ALL is useful, though.
For SunUp and other new players: welcome to vagueness. Mafia is a game where clarity is sought, but often not found until the end of the game.
How do you tell if a player is Scum? You don’t. There are very, very, very few real tells, and new players don’t have the experience to pick up on even those bits. So, play the game. Push the other players. Suspect everyone. After the first night or two we’ll get information from the Major Players. Deaths in the Night will give us information.
Don’t anguish over it.
And BTW, I’m still living in a house surrounded by cornfields in central Indiana. My grandson is attending college in Illinois, studying to be a welder. Madame Pepperwinkle’s been in a physical care facility since February, and can’t stand up or walk. But she’s showing signs of progress, and I’m with her for 8 hours or so every other day (the glories of retirement).
Generally the same, and life is still good.
If we go way back, I used to Vote All and then unvote as I saw cause. It was unpopular.
I also, even more unpopular, tried to be silent one game where I was scum. It worked, but was poor gamesmanship. I was simply seeing if a lurker can actually hide out fully.
My general starting thoughts.
There is no confidence in Day 1 votes unless someone slips and lets information out. I guess that happens, but I think most Day 1’s are just guesses.
Lurking sucks as it gives us no information. Please play!
Ooh! Didn’t know there was one (my daughter is living in Wisconsin right now, though she’s about to leave).
I do remember people being suspicious of you for it. In fact it seemed a good way to bait scum into voting for you.
@Biotop that’s an interesting idea about it possibly mattering because of Chronos’ comment that he’d being purposely vague. He spelled out what the tiebreaker is, so it’s not that.
I’m sorry to hear Madame Pepperwinkle has suffered, but glad that everything else is good. The years haven’t always been kind to any of us but I’m thrilled that we’re all still here.
@Pardel-Lux, do you have a posting restriction? Or are you doing that for fun?
I remember you doing the vote all to bait scum too, I guess I did play in one or two games. I don’t remember you completely lurking as scum and winning, that surprises me (that you won) because everyone was very fond of LTL back in the day.
(New players: we have a lot of jargon. LTL meant voting for players who weren’t posting. Some people did this as a policy vote because it annoyed them when people lurked. It’s also an easy vote for scum to hide behind. It stood for (word beginning with L that we don’t use anymore because it’s culturally insensitive, think execute or exile) the Lurker.)
Does anyone want to post what their favorite Shakespeare play is? Mine is Midsummernights Dream.
So, with 13 players, I’d guess 3-4 Major Characters, 3-4 Villains, and the rest Minor Characters.
It’s Shakespeare, so I’d guess Iago, Lady Macbeth, Richard II and maybe Brutus for the Villains. (It doesn’t matter gamewise, but I do enjoy the colour.)
From the rules in the Sign-Up Thread:
The Villains will win (and the Major and Minor Characters will lose) if they control the vote (see voting rules, below).
and
Voting will be approval voting (or, I suppose, disapproval voting): Anyone may vote for as many other players as they like. Please put your votes (or unvotes) in bold, and on its own line, like such:
Vote Chronos
I will count votes in other formats, if I see them, but this makes it much easier for me. At the end of each Day, the player receiving the most votes will be lynched. All vote tallies will be cleared each Day, so if you wish to continue voting for the same person or people, you will need to re-cast your vote(s).Ties in the vote will be resolved alphabetically: If there is a tie for first place for the lynch, the lynchee will be the one among the tied players whose role name comes last alphabetically. Yes, it is theoretically possible to game this. If you think you can pull it off, you are welcome to try.
Does this mean that if Villains are able to start a bandwagon and are the majority of those voters they win? Or if the situation gets to the point where the Villains can, by numbers remaining, control the vote?
I’m guessing it’s the latter, but, y’know, “vagueness”.