Shakespeare Mafia -- Act IV (Game Over)

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Enter King Henry and the Duchess of Gloucester

KING HENRY
To Duchess You, madam, for you are more nobly born,
Despoilèd of your honor in your life,
Shall, after three days’ open penance done,
Live in your country here in banishment
With SunUp in the Isle of Man.

SunUp, who played the role of Sir John Stanley, a minor character, is dead.

Enter Strato
DIZZYMRSLIZZY
I prithee, Strato, stay thou by thy lord.
Thou art a fellow of a good respect;
Thy life hath had some smatch of honor in it.
Hold, then, my sword, and turn away thy face
While I do run upon it. Wilt thou, Strato?
STRATO
Give me your hand first. Fare you well, my lord.
DIZZYMRSLIZZY
Farewell, good Strato.
Dizzymrslizzy runs on her sword.
Caesar, now be still.
I killed not thee with half so good a will.

Dizzymrslizzy, who played the role of Brutus, a major character, is dead.

Act IV, scene 1: The fields of Agincort, on the dawn of the feast of St. Crispin

Enter Prof.Pepperwinkle, DemonTree, storyteller0910, Mahaloth

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Pfui!

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Well either Dizzy was the vig or we hath a 4th villain.

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Heck, double pfui!!

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Hey, I’m mobile and on a trip. Should we all name claim? Have we all?

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I was expecting either: one town character dead, killed by mafia + one other dead, killed by vig.

Or: One vigilante dead, killed by mafia.

I suppose Dizzymrslizzy could have killed SunUp, and then been killed by the villain, but the text implies she killed herself. Maybe the last villain has a redirect power, and redirected the vigilante’s hit onto herself? Or the power had some kind of booby trap where if she killed too many townies/used it too many times she would suicide?

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Either way, things do not look good for us.

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Farewell my dear friends….I wish I could tell you all don’t know! Till End game we meet again.

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I think the text was just Shakesperean colour.

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No, I think that would help the villain more at this point.

The other thing that makes me question it is that IIRC, no one was particularly suspicious of SunUp. My thought is that it makes sense for the villain to target players no one suspected, leaving more suspicious ones for them to blend in with, while the vig should target generally suspected characters, based on both the wisdom of the crowd, and getting them out of the way so town can avoid being distracted by false leads in the voting.

So it’s plausible for the villain to target SunUp, but odd for Dizzy to do so as vig.

Or is there something I haven’t thought of?

Perhaps it doesn’t matter very much, though. Assuming our 4 town powers are now all dead :worried: , a possible villain redirection power is no longer useful.

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vote storyteller

for the same reason as yesterDay.

I know he gave a fair explanation, but storyteller can tell a story.

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So, IF we yeet a Townie toDay, that means the Villain will slay one of us in the Night, leaving 2 players left, and whoever’s left will vote for each other, and the player with the character name furthest down in the alphabet will die.

And the Villain will or has already lie about his character name, since that gives Town information.

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…the Villain?

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Well, there hardly be 2 Villains left. The game would be over already.

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So here we are. Four left.

Prof.P’s last post notwithstanding, we cannot be sure that we are down to a single Villain. If we are not, then we are in a very dangerous position today because two Villains in a pool of four can swing a vote very easily at the last second (particularly if they both happen to have early-in-the-alphabet role names and so know they will survive a tie vote). Even a single Villain could make a large vote swing by unvoting one candidate and re-voting another. I strong suggest that everyone alive try as hard as possible to be online and watching the thread for the last hour or so of this game Day, so that we can react quickly to shenanigans.

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Why? We do not know for sure that an even number of Villains and non-Villains would mean game over - a fact that the analysis you include in your own post assumes when you talk about what happens if we banish the wrong person today.

You have also re-voted me, very early in the day in a very tenuous situation, for an argument that I think is incredibly specious (to give the reminder that he conveniently left out - Prof.P is voting for me because I thought he was female. The argument is that I was referring to the gender of his character, which I know because [in theory] the Villains have a role Cop. This seemed innocuous enough yesterDay, but placing a vote on that basis today is really, really questionable.

To summarize:

vote Prof.P

  1. For repeating a vote that wasn’t a good vote to begin with
  2. For basing an analysis on what appears to me to be privileged information
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Ah, sorry, forgot to format:

vote Prof.P

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Last in-a-row post, I promise!

I think we might need to re-think some of our past assumptions. The most obvious way to read last Night’s results was to assume dizzymrslizzy was the Vigilante (which certainly fits the color), killed SunUp, and was in turn killed by the Villains.

But why would a Vig dizzy, whose primary suspect at the time of her death was Mahaloth, choose instead to target SunUp?

Throughout the game I have dismissed the possibility of a Villain-aligned redirector being responsible for Angel’s investigation of Thing Fish in place of Mahaloth.

But this seems like a much more plausible option. Perhaps there is a Villain-aligned redirector, has been one all along, and he or she guessed that dizzy was the Vig and would target Mahaloth, redirecting from Mahaloth back onto herself?

I have no idea whether the opening color “counts” in any way, but it is perhaps worth pointing out that in toDay’s opening narration, Brutus kills himself (again, this may be meaningless - Chronos may have just chosen Brutus’ death passage as most logical under the circumstances).

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This is pretty much exactly what I posted this morning. The only thing that makes me doubtful is that it would surely have been safer and more certain for the villain to target Dizzy directly, rather than to use the redirect power on her. How do redirect powers normally work in these games?

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I was thinking about his as well. We are at LyLo, which means(forgive the older terminology) “lynch or lose”. We have to get this one right or it is game over.

I have to think about my vote. I’m not sure at all. I see both little case against anyone and equally strong case against anyone.