The season premier is tonight at 9pm Eastern on Showtime.
I’be been waiting all year for this. One of the few shows that both my wife and I watch together.
What are your hopes for the season? I look forward to the family getting back to relying on themselves, instead of Steve always being there as “Plan B”.
Never seen it: what’s the premise?
A real shitty synopsis:
A family living on the southside of Chicago, where the eldest daughter must raise the younger kids because of an alcoholic father, and an absent mother.
It’s an American version of a really popular UK show.
A Wikipedia Link for the US version.
The show has great characters, and fantastic writing.
I like the show, except for one major exception: Frank. I want him jailed or dead.
Good one sentence synopsis but realize it’s played for yuks and is totaly unrealistic… as opposed to a heart-wrenching drama type thing.
I just recently discovered this on Comcast On Demand. I watched the entire first season over several days and loved it.
Ruffian,
Really? It wouldn’t be the same show without Frank. That’s like saying House would be better without Greg House. Sure, Frank’s disgusting, but that’s the point. William H. Macy, does an excellent job with this part.
Yes, Fiona is the center of the show, but a major part of the show is her having to clean up the shit storms created by Frank.
Okay, last nights episode:
[spoiler]I watched last night’s episode (which has been available on On Demand for a few days, strangely enough). I have to say that it felt different than the first season somehow. I can’t quite place my finger on it, but maybe it’s because the kids are visibly older and because they seem to have jumped forward in time presumably to accommodate that.
There have been no consequences, legal or otherwise, to Frank’s publicly outed screwing around with Karen? Her mother still keeps him in the house? Is she perhaps still unaware of it due to her lack of socialization? Of course, she has become so emotionally dependent on Frank that she’s totally blinded herself to his true nature, so I guess it’s believable.
However, you’d think somebody would tell her or call the cops or social services or something.
I loved Fiona storming into the kidnapper’s apartment: “Well then you’re going to have to shoot.”[/spoiler]
Frank really makes the show, and without him the storyline would just be about a bunch of ducked up kids. Instead you see why the family is in its particular situation.
My wife see a lot of her own father in Frank, but without the charm.
I couldn’t believe they threw away/burned that much freaking pot. That had to be worth more than their house; surely somewhere in Chicago there’s somebody who’d buy it even if it’s at bargain basement prices.
Frank is such a guilty pleasure: you want to hit him in the head with a full beer bottle until one of them (the beer bottle or his head) is broken and spilling out, but since he’s not a member of your family it’s fun seeing what he’ll do next. Though if Fiona were to shoot him 9 times the most I’d find her guilty of is a noise violation, and I’d suspend the sentence and give her 12 years to pay the fine.
The kid who plays Ian turned 18 just before filming began and was talking on an interview about filming his first graphic sex scenes (which I suppose means nudity). That will be weird watching since he’s been on TV all his life.
Odd hearing that kind of language come from Jack Crosby.
I wonder how many episodes before Steve comes back. I still think last season would have been more of a surprise if Fiona had gone off with him for a while.
So is anybody still watching?
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Frank is officially the most loathsome main character on any TV series ever. I can’t believe William H. Macy hasn’t gotten a lot more buzz for playing him. Has there every been another character who was a gay-for-pay whore (I was glad that at least his clients were from the scuzzy and old gay bar, because there’s no way anybody who wasn’t both would be interested in him), a druggie, the deliberate cause of death for one girlfriend (‘Butterface’- not sure if that would be Murder 1, Murder 2, or what legally but twould be something) while attempting to make the other relapse, and renting rooms to pregnant illegal aliens and doing coke all within the course of two or three weeks? He needs Dexter-ing by this stage.
The girls who play Debbie and Ethel are both really good and I’m glad they’re getting more plots and screentime without it becoming remotely a family show. And the wheel landing in Sheila’s yard was shocking-sad-funny.
Next week they find her husband’s body, which even though it was a suicide I hope Frank goes to prison for; being wrongly convicted of something would be justice for all the shit he’s done that he got away with.
I’m still watching it and loving it, though I really wish Jane Levy were still playing Ian’s beard. Oh well, I like Suburgatory too.
Definitely still watching.
I’ve been trying to decide who is the more loathsome “family man” currently on TV; Frank Gallagher or Walter White. Both are narcissistic assholes. Frank is more loathsome in a personal way. Walter causes more societal destruction and is guilty of more murders.
I hadn’t noticed they’d done a switcheroo. Crikey.
I don’t think that Mandy Milkovich has even appeared in the second series, so they didn’t do any switcheroo.
She was in the most recent episode. Didn’t Lip have sex with her?
No, he slept with Karen Jackson, Sheila and Eddie’s daughter. Mandy is Mickey’s sister.
No, she’s been his regular screw but in the most recent episode she turned him down and blah blah can’t remember exactly but there was some trying to get back at her, Lip having sex with a dark haired lass (that I thought was Mandy) and then her going off to try and sex up/get dirt on Karen’s husband-to-be.
(I think)
I’ll have to watch the episode again. IMDB lists Emma Greenwell in the role of Mandy Milkovich this season.
Yes, that’s who replaced Jane Levy in the role, which appears to be greatly expanded this season compared to last. (She’s been in every episode so far.)