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Believe it or not, before this thread I was never entirely clear that Martin is a Christian or something of the sort. Therefore, as a morally superior Unitarian/atheist/agnostic/whuttevah, I say to Martin in the fullest and most appropriate expression of Christian love, may your first day in Hell last a thousand years, and may it be the shortest; and may your false and evil and abominable God (may He burn in His own Hell for His sins) never in all eternity take the least notice of you save as something upon which to wipe His ass.
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In other words, you are posting things you don’t believe in order to stir up shit.
Again, Martin, do you see what I mean? They often don’t even pretend they aren’t trolls.
[QUOTE=Shodan]
In other words, you are posting things you don’t believe in order to stir up shit.
Again, Martin, do you see what I mean? They often don’t even pretend they aren’t trolls.
Regards,
Shodan
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I really applaud your ability to maintain such a noble nature despite the relentless mistreatment you suffer at the hands of these thugs. You can only hope the excellent example you set, with your fallacy-free, well-reasoned posts, will inspire the orcs to become more human.
PS - Set your sights a bit higher. Cervaise did well with his Telemarketer rant, but the one in this thread was sort of lame. Mere venting, no creativity. YMMV.
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I really applaud your ability to maintain such a noble nature despite the relentless mistreatment you suffer at the hands of these thugs.
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Amazing how well he types with those holes in his hands.
[QUOTE=Rubystreak]
So if someone else started the thread, you wouldn’t have so shamelessly hijacked it? Then you’ve just admitted that your attack on Obama was actually a (thinly) veiled attack on Shayna. I think you’ve adequately proven that with this thread and your refusal to participate in BrainGlutton’s spin off thread.
If you want to debate the issues, then debate the issues. If you want to fuck with Shayna, I guess go ahead. But you are being intellectually dishonest yourself if you try to say that you’re all about hitting out at Obama, when Shayna is your real target. If that’s not what you mean to say, then you’ve undermined yourself in a big way.
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No, if someone else who was a mouthpiece for the Obama campaign had started that thread, I would have brought Obama up–period.
I already debated this issue, to my satisfaction, in the closed thread. By having the thread closed Shayna prohibited anyone who disagreed with me from having further say–and that’s fine. But that isn’t my fault, and I’m not going to reiterate arguments I have already made in a new thread, my arguments have been made in the venue I wanted to make them. To me, that particular topic (Obama being a racist) is now a done and settled argument as it pertains to me. At least for the time being.
It was about Obama, period. It was about Obama in the same way a negative attack ad about John McCain paid for by “Friends of Barack Obama” would be, about Obama. Specifically, about getting Obama elected, about making Obama look better by comparison. If you can’t understand this basic facet of politics, I’m sorry.
Negative attacks on your opponent in a political election are indeed about the person (or candidate) making the attack–these attacks are done to make one candidate look better than the other. I’m not saying some issues about John McCain weren’t being raised–but based on who was raising them and how they were raising these issues, it makes it abundantly clear to me that thread was the SDMB equivalent of a “Paid for by Barack Obama” negative attack ad. Such ads open up the person who put the ad up to fair criticism (or the candidate such ads support.)
Sorry, I don’t owe the OP impartiality. If Focus on the Family paid someone to post a thread about something in the pit, do you genuinely think everyone would act impartial and treat the thread and its arguments based on their own merit? No, of course not, people would point out the underlying bias of the organization the promulgated the thread.
Yeah, and I agree with a lot of what you’ve posted. In essence for about two years I’ve followed that general level of advice, I’ve ignored a lot of the more idiotic stuff I’ve seen here.
I’ve ignored probably 200x what I’ve confronted, and while I think ignoring some of the dumber circle jerk “we all love liberal-thing X” stuff is wise, sometimes I think it has to be hit head-on too.
It’s reasonable to want to avoid that though, because there is nothing more universal than the condemnation and outrage you’ll get from most of the political dopers when you dare go directly against an anti-GOP or pro-Leftist/Liberal (nowadays pro-Obama) circle jerk in progress.
You become that unwelcome guy who makes it harder for everyone in the circle to get off. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Bricker] Shayna is not a neutral party on the subject of Senator Obama. But you cannot complain at how unfairly she dismisses logical argument without first offering it. In other words, debate the debate. You haven’t done that here.
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This is untrue, in that very thread I presented evidence to back up my assertions. There is more evidence out there, but I think one of the key pieces of evidence is the simple fact that Obama supports a guy who publishes hate-speech written by terrorists.
Jeremiah Wright’s racism is beyond question, and it is my assertion that long-time association, in the manner of making Jeremiah Wright your “spiritual mentor” and even giving him a position on your presidential campaign is a tacit endorsement of the man.
It’s one thing if this stuff was a secret, and Obama found out about it after the fact, but there’s no evidence that that is the case. Jeremiah Wright has not been afraid to make these hatemongering feelings of his known for decades.
In any case, as I said, I feel I debated the topic in the original thread. I’m sorry that it was closed, I would have debated it further in that thread. I’m simply not going to make it a habit to repost the same arguments over and over again just because one poster is too afraid to allow debate.
[QUOTE=Shodan]
In other words, you are posting things you don’t believe in order to stir up shit.
Again, Martin, do you see what I mean? They often don’t even pretend they aren’t trolls.
Regards,
Shodan
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I prefer BrainGlutton’s posts in these threads to his usual habit of starting a thread that links to a news article about:
Something evil Republicans are doing
Some batshit, moronic conspiracy theory
Some doomsday imminent that is probably being caused by Conservatives
Then making a few word comment on the article to the effect of, “Well, what do you think?”
It’s always disgusted me that someone feels the need to act as a lefter-leaning version of Fark here on the Dope. I also have little respect for people who won’t put out their opinions on a topic right when they start their threads. (With one exception being people who are openly and honestly just soliciting opinions of others.)
