Shocking, Disturbing Restaurant Assault Vid: Woman Allegedly Beaten Into a Seizure As Employees Laug

Report from the Baltimore Sun
Transgender Woman - check
McD’s employee that recorded the vid - fired
Investigation continues

The sad fact is that because they are women, they will not get anything even close to the same sentence they would if they were men. Hell, the guy holding the camera will probably get a longer sentence.

I would. I HAVE stepped between fighting people. I’ve had to render aid to a police officer laying in the middle of the street, gut-shot (the bullet found a little crack to slip through on the side of the body armor), while cops were still having a stand-off, with a few shots zinging by my head.

I’m an RN with 24 years experience working with neurology patients. I’ve seen hundreds of seizures and probably a hundred fake seizures, as well as conversion disorders (which are not seizures, but they’re not fake seizures either).

The person faking the seizure in the video demonstrated purposeful movement (flipping his body over, smacking the wall) that is never seen in real seizures.

It wasn’t even a good fake seizure.

Brom the above linked Baltimore Sun report

Which means, “Sh*t, I’ll be lucky to have a dime left after this legal battle is done”

As for the two attackers:

Why is it so important to you that it be a fake seizure?

Nobody with a legitimate medical background would attempt to speak authoritatively about somebody’s medical condition based on something they saw on YouTube.

It’s not. I was merely responding to all the conjecture.

In fact, I think it was a very smart move.
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Oddly enough, responsible news reportsnow write: The video shows two females — one of them a 14-year-old girl — repeatedly kicking and punching Polis in the head as an employee and a patron try to intervene. Others can be heard laughing, and men are seen standing idly by.

Not quite the black on white lynch mob that were called out initially - despite having seen the same video.

You are right. I should have been clear that it is merely my opinion that it is fake.

It certainly could be fake. Without being able to assess the patient at the time, I couldn’t say for certain. It doesn’t seem indicative of an epileptic seizure, but it’s certainly in the realm of possibility that the victim had some sort of seizure disorder, coupled with the physical - and psychological - trauma of the event, that caused the reaction.

It’s entirely possible that it’s faked. It’s also equally possible that it’s real. You know as well as I do (and I don’t mean that to sound snarky) that we have to treat it as legit until proven otherwise.

[Villager in the St. Bedevere scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail]
Because … black people … use … crack?
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Note how they didn’t even spill their Tiger Woods while dishing out the beatdown. Fuckin’ canadians are the shit.

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WRONG!

Cite:smiley:

Seizure disorders aren’t terribly uncommon, you realize.

Well, on the job we do; in this setting we are free to speculate. :smiley:

Maybe I’m just jaded. When co-workers and I see a (badly) faked seizure, we just sort of roll our eyes. Don’t get me wrong - we respond. And we monitor. We’ve even treated. But when it is obvious to the point of being ridiculous (for example, the patient watching you out of the corner of his eye while he’s ‘seizing’), and when it happens every twenty minutes, you start to feel manipulated.

I should also point out that I am in a position to know EEG results of patients with ‘seizure disorders’, and therefore often get confirmation on whether seizures I have witnessed have been legitimate.

With all that said, ** tnetennba** was correct: it was irresponsible for me to state as fact that this was a fake. I posted in haste.
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This is technically accurate within the required standards of care, but it’s important to understand that transition does not always include surgery, for a variety of reasons, including personal preference, medical ineligibility or lack of finance. There is a very wide spectrum of personal circumstances that fall under the transgender umbrella.

That having been said, it doesn’t matter what the state of the body of Chrissy Polis (the victim, a woman who is transgender, not a cross dresser, not a transvestite and not a he) is, what surgeries she has or has not undergone, what hormones she is or isn’t taking or what her genitalia looks like. That’s personal information, and nothing she needs to verify or qualify in order to access a women’s restroom. She’s lived as a woman for a number of years, and quite clearly she wasn’t a danger to anyone by virtue of using the women’s room.

And this is the case almost universally, which is why this case makes the childish “potty panic” that always arises when transgender protections are debated legislatively so clearly facile and backwards. No one can point to a any situation in which cisgender criminals have cross-dressed in order to gain access to women’s rooms or changing facilities in order to molest, assault or voyeur. We can, however, point to situations that occur with alarming regularity where trans people are harassed, assaulted or arrested (and occasionally assaulted and arrested) for attempting to simply pee in the appropriate place.

Trans women are women, and are endangered when forced to use men’s rooms (not mention that it’s simply inappropriate) and equally endangered when they try to use women’s rooms and cannot rely upon the protection of law and the societal progress that protection brings about. Trans men similarly don’t belong in women’s rooms, that they generally need to sit down to urinate is immaterial.

As for Chrissy Polis, I pray for her recovery, and the imprisonment of her attackers. I also look forward to the franchisee of this McDonald’s location going broke paying her off.

Why should the owner of the restaurant pay and go broke? Why should he, and presumably his wife and children, lose their income and the money they’ve invested in the store? Why should his employees, most of whom were not involved nor perhaps even working that shift, lose their jobs and benefits? How could the store owner have foreseen that this would happen, and what steps should he have been reasonably expected to take to prevent it happening? Lots of people will be negatively affected and hurt should the franchisee “go broke”, so I’m just wondering what it is that you base your opinon on?

No, they aren’t. They are either men who place too much importance on traditional gender roles, or they are men with body dysmorphia. Neither of which makes them a woman.