Shooting and mass murder in Isla Vista

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I don’t know what clear signs had been obvious or missed over the past 14 years but it had been determined that this monster should began therapy at age 8 and remained in therapy for years. He was probably medicated to some degree. He had no close friends, or any friends for that matter, but the people who knew him thought he was scary and strange. His parents knew there was something wrong with him.

If the story is correct, his therapist contacted the mother with concerns about her lil’ monsters well-being. Six or seven police officers were sent to the monsters home to check on his well-being. That seems like a lot to me. (What were the PO’s expecting?) The monster convinced them that he was normal.

Maybe wellness checks should include internet posting checks also? idk.

Will you quit with the “monster” thing? I think we can all agree he was a despicable person.

You’ve said it so much, I feel like I’m reading this week’s Sesame Street transcript.

Yeah. Coeducation was the nifty idea that it might be possible for women and men to attend the same college without fire raining from the sky. Because there were more men’s colleges than women’s colleges, mostly this meant, at the beginning, a growing trickle of women attending formerly men-only colleges.

I suspect that the term coed came into use at about the same time that the pearl-clutching started to die down. Coed always seemed to be a cute sort of word, a used in a yes, they’re here, but they’re harmless kind of way. Definitely patronizing, but not necessarily hostile. Anyone with real use history of the word please jump in and correct.

It’s an increasingly archaic word, but it’s demise has been slowed by the fact that it’s a very short word that can help the word count of an article with a space limit. That’s where I’ve seen it most in the last decade. “Female college student” is 22 characters, counting the spaces, while “coed” is four. It takes up less than 1/5 the space.

It has baggage, but its brevity keeps it alive.

Our Sunday paper included an article stating that the police who did the check did not see the video first. That the parents sent links or copies but that they weren’t forwarded to the field cops. If true, I suspect that might have made a difference.

Which proves my point – if this kid had a genuine psychiatric history, the cops would have shot him dead instead. :mad:

And the fact that he was seeing a therapist means nothing. Every parent in L.A. sends their children to therapy whenever they start acting like bratty children.

Oh sure, sounds like a great idea…after all, it worked out wonderfully for these people.

It makes me sick.

It’s going to be weekly. On Tuesdays right after American Idol starting this fall.

I could ask people to stop using the quote feature or to refrain from using “that word” themselves. That appears to count for over half of the uses of the word monster in this thread. Oops, I didn’t mean to use “that word” again.

Would you mind retyping one of my “that word” posts in a manner that you find acceptable?

How about not using it so often that it sounds like a verbal tic when read aloud. That would be an excellent first step toward not sounding totally ridiculous.

Maybe you should stop reading threads/posts out loud???

I think you maybe confusing the number of times I wrote “that word” with the number of times that others used “that word” plus the number of times “that word” was quoted.

Not confused at all.

Sweet Jesus. If I saw such a thing in a movie script or novel I’d reject it as too unbelievably over the top. In a weird way I almost halfway hope that the above was just another put-on, because I have hard time accepting that someone could be that type of nuts - a fucking cartoon. But considering the evidence it seems he was sincere :(. Sincerely BUGFUCK CRAZY.

In that case, my answer is no. This mentally defective moron is a monster. I will strive to never mention his name. I believe that is what these mass-murders want. He is the Isla Vista monster. That’s all he deserves.

He dehumanized others, so let’s dehumanize him, then, is what you are saying?

But even granting that… There’s a reason I used quote marks when following up to you earlier, and it’s that your preferred term is only useful as after-the-fact shorthand, but it would have at no point come up in any assessment that could be used to impose the preemptive confinement and involuntary treatment you seemed to be advocating.

He’s a mass murderer. A dead mass murderer. Color him any way that makes you feel better about yourself or the world in general.

I consider him a monster because he acted as a monster. It is an after-the-fact description.

Actually the really interesting question is not why didn’t the parents/therapists/police do something?

Instead it is:
Why didn’t the roommates move out?

They had vastly more interaction with this guy than any of those previously mentioned.

Hey, you were the one using the term while asking if he could have been* involuntarily* confined and medicated beforehand. I’m just pointing out that is not a diagnosis and you just agreed with that.

Hey??? I would not have referred to him as a monster before he had committed mass murder. I would have used his name or possibly, this guy, that guy, this poor bastard, etc… Now that he is known as a mass murdering, deranged lunatic, I see no reason not to refer to him as a monster.

They were subject to a lease. They were going to move out in June.

IV rentals in the “student ghetto” are interesting. It’s very common for individual tenants to have a lease with the landlord for use of the apartment instead of one group of people renting the apartment together. Those other guys were stuck with him. They didn’t choose him to share the apartment.

IV, the guy’s hometown, and his schools are probably awash with reporters looking to find someone who knew him personally to interview and provide anecdotes. But I don’t see any such stories on the news, at least so far. Didn’t the guy have friends, classmates, cousins?

That’s something that I wondered as well. One rag found a woman who he mentioned in the manifesto as a friend as a young child. They posted pictures from her Facebook including some shots of her in a slinky dress or something. Her father said something like, “leave her the hell alone. She barely remembers the guy.”

The guy briefly attended the JC across town from the university and IV. He wasn’t a student at the time.

I hate to admit it but I skimmed the manifesto (it’s grimly fascinating), and in fact he had almost no friends. He had a few friends who were children of his parents’ friends, but he gradually lost all of them due to the fact that he was a sociopathic weirdo. He managed to alienate every roommate he ever had. His Facebook page has almost no pictures other than selfies.