That’s some irony you’ve got going there, Cheesesteak.
Not in the least. What rumors pray tell?
Hormones, before birth, affect your perception as male or female. Its valid.
Race isn’t affected by your body chemistry, so its not a good analogy.
I am speculating; not an expert.
Well that’s the thing. I don’t get to draw the line. If someone identifies as a woman, I don’t have any say in the matter. Neither do you. Same for people who identify as men, black people, or Chinese people. The age thing is still a dumbass argument.
Would you like to visit the tribe I used to work for and explain to them how they’re all doing it wrong and need to change what they call themselves? I’d love to see that.
While you’re at it, head over to the Bureau of Indian Affairs and get on their case about how they’ve been working with the wrong population for a 200 years.
Here’s a hint… The United States and Canada aren’t the same country. I know some people get confused on that point, but it’s a fact.
Well you certainly didn’t defend your point very well, if I’m allowed to say so.
It’s pointless to argue with people who rehash the same tired old bigoted claims. What, you couldn’t find a way to work in attack helicopter?
All I can do is to tell you the way things are. You have no say in who does or does not identify as anything. You’re not a gatekeeper.
But aren’t we seeing that already in those who reject the shop teacher as a transwoman? They want proof and cites beyond what her employer is providing. They don’t believe her sincerity based on how she presents herself.
Because her employer is providing nothing. They won’t give out any info because of privacy reasons. Which is understandable, of course, but it doesn’t help the discussion.
“How you present yourself” isn’t what being trans is. It’s often part of it, but your identity isn’t solely what you look like.
This is like talking to a five-year-old. Except I think my daughter was a bit savvier when she was five.
And we still don’t know whether or not this is how she presents herself on a regular basis.
That’s what I thought.
A friend of mine is a trans woman. At one point she had surgery done to appear more feminine. She had a GoFundMe page to pay for the procedure because it was expensive. Fortunately, she had plenty of fans and friends online (she does tabletop RPG design as a side job) and was able to afford it that way.
But the reason she did so was heartbreaking to me. She didn’t do it because she wanted to change her appearance. She did it because she was tired that people were not treating her as a woman despite being one. She went through all of that expense, pain, recovery, everything, just to be more accepted. It’s pretty fucked up. Of course I supported her (financially and emotionally) but it’s pretty shitty that she had to go through that.
So that’s partially what I mean when I say that how you present yourself is part of it, but clearly not what it’s all about.
Quoting this whole post, because it really answers all the questions regarding race, age, etc. Anyone who is still asking why you can’t identify as 23 or Black or whatever, hasn’t read this post.
This is really silly. By far, like by really far, most people who identified as a different race identified as white in order to avoid persecution.
Does it really matter how she presents herself on a regular basis? Is she not a transwoman if she decides to bind her prosthetic one day or go braless the next?
Should you be the gatekeeper on how she feels like transitioning?
I love when a poster calls their entire thread worthless.
A friend of ours is also a trans woman, self-employed as an IT consultant. AFAIK, the only people not treating her as a woman have been her relatives, which we encountered first-hand. She’s only gone as far as to have hormone therapy and wears a wig on a regular basis to hide her thinning, graying hair.
In her private life she can dress how she wants.
In her role as a teacher she is still subject to the rules and expectations of her employer. That means appropriate attire.
But you want to be the ultimate authority on whether you accept her and her transition. Sounds like gate keeping to me.
People aren’t talking about how she dresses at home vs at work. That doesn’t matter. They’re talking about whether she dresses this way on a regular basis, or if this was done just once, and why it was done. We don’t know any of that, and therefore it’s difficult to judge anything. I’m guessing we’ll probably never know.
Nobody is buying your concern trolling.
Do we even have a statement by the person in the photos as to their gender identity?
Pretty sure we don’t even have a confirmation of her name, just who it isn’t.