So while you are insulting Astro for judging others, you seem to be judging couples that choose to have both parents work. Should either my wife or I not work to keep our kids out of daycare and summer camps?
I sympathize with the idea that the kids might be better off if one parent stays home, but it is realistic to expect it anymore.
We are far from perfect parents, but unlike my parents, we should be able to pay for our kid’s college education one day. I think it is a worthwhile goal and an important one. Life is a series of compromises.
It may even be possible that he’s just being a selfish jerk. Can’t really say, 'cuz there’s not enough hard information in that post to make a judgment about either the poster or the people he’s attacking. But obviously a culture which encourages its members to have children will have a competitive edge over a culture which doesn’t, and it’s rather disturbing that so many people on this thread seem to be anti-child and anti-family.
Damn that selfish jerk for not providing food, clothing, and shelter for someone elses progeny, its such an attack on his friend that he doesn’t want to continually lend her money. In regards to people being anti-family in this thread I think you’re exaggerating quite a bit, but even so the increasing world population is going to at some point most likely become a problem. For the record I’m not anti-child or anti-family, but I don’t believe in raising 7 kids in the trailer park either.
Ok, I have been on both ends of the spectrum. My last post said that I have five children, voluntarily. I am also an only child, with all the advantages and disadvantages that comes with that growing up. I CHOSE to have five children, to me it was more valuable for them to have siblings, than to go Disney World every year. There are trade offs to every decision. Respect me for mine, and I’ll respect you for yours. But I love the assumption on numerous kids. How about people that only have ONE and can’t afford it? Why no vilification there? Besides, I figure the world needs more smart, enlightened, stable people in the world anyway. (We figure ours will either be serial killers, or Nobel prize winners, or perhaps some of each, flip a coin.)
And with that, I am gone. Going to take my troop and go camping. In my big ass van with rust. And playclothes. Don’t feel sorry for me folks, we’ll be having a blast.
I don’t see what is anti-family about pointing out that you shouldn’t have a LOT of kids if you’re poor. Everyone one earth who can and wants to have kids should have them, but you gotta draw the line somewhere. Two kids is a “family” same as four.
Wow, with all the other things I thought people had the opportunity to judge me for about my kids (clothing, cleanliness, manners, school work, and the ability not to annoy anyone else for any reason whatsoever because you know all children should be little adults who never make msitakes), now I get to be judged hero or loser for the number I have? No middle ground, not just a person living their life?
Whatever. People don’t always have conventional families: Fosters, Adopted, Blended from marriage or death in the family, etc. There’s any number of reasons why people have the family they do. They were just heading to the store for peanut butter and eggs, and not asking for your praise or condemnation.
Neithere: I feel that they’re being intelligent and successful. Intelligent because having more children increases the chance that one of them will be a significant success and therefore be able to look after (financially) the parents in old age, and if none are significant successes, the burden can be spread more widely. Successful because their genes will (on average) propagate more than those with fewer children.
And as a batchelor, I’m damn glad someone is having a decent number of children who will pay taxes which will look after me in my old age.
This is the definative post in this thread. I’m from the USA. I have two kids, they wore hand me downs and second hand clothes from shops. Why spend lots on clothes and cars if you don’t have the dough? Why feel sorry, angry because someone else doesn’t do as you do, spending wise. A Mom with 4-5 kids in tow looks tired in a parking lot after shopping with the 4-5 kiddies, WTF of course she does. What’s wrong with W-mart clothes anyway? Who says we should all dress in designer clothes?
And how do you know that the 4-5 kids are her’s? Maybe she has 2-3 and the others are an irresponsible sibs that she is now taking care of. J
ust a suggestion: Don’t judge people you see for 60 seconds in the parking lot by their car or their charge’s clothing.