Should the New Pornographers change their name ASAP?

Your own personal definition that nobody else uses is not something you can demand of people. There is no accepted definition of “pornography” that limits it to a particular age range.

Child pornography and child abuse are not different things. Child pornography is a form of child abuse. Demanding that people call it “abuse” instead of “pornography” is just demanding that they be nonspecific.

People understand that child pornography is abuse. That’s why it’s illegal and dealt with harshly. That’s why being caught as a consumer and/or producer of it destroys a person socially. That’s why the vast majority of people only use the term with disgust. We know how horrible it is, nobody is trying to normalize it or minimize how bad it is.

That’s why this thread even exists in the first place. Any association with it, even indirect, is stigmatizing.

Just Fighting ignorance here.

And coming across as being very upset or angry with your fellow Dopers in the process.

Really angry and upset?
No just adamant.

So someone else shares your opinion. Big whoop. Most of the world doesn’t.

Forcing your opinion is not fighting ignorance.

Most of the world? You are connected big time.

Yup, connected via the internet which is pretty big, so your statement is accurate.

And depending on one’s proclivities that internet connection could be skewed towards inaccuracies and unsavory rabbit holes.

Well this is the SDMB after all.

FWIW, I have seen this phrase in the wild before. It is one of the latest ways to smugly insist to people that they are Englishing wrong.

The next band meeting is going to be awkward. “Joe, I’m pretty sure we covered this in orientation, but do you recall what’s the first rule of New Pornographers? It’s really simple.”

Many years ago, I read a magazine article about Iron Maiden, and one of the members said they’d gotten a package of tracts, books, and a Bible, and one of the books was “Music: The New Pornography” by (of all people) Jimmy Swaggart, pre-arrest, and one of the band members was on the cover.

Is it too late for me to suggest The Informed and Consenting Adult Pornographers?

What did she think his “other stuff” was? Just curious.

Don’t blame her for living in fear. Chances are, she was afraid of him beforehand.

Moderating:

This thread is about the band, the new pornographers. The discussion on what words to use to describe the actions of the member who was who was caught with sexual images of children has gone on more than long enough. I apologize for my part of that hijack. If you want to keep discussing that, please take it to another thread.

Still is, AFAIK.

Huh. I guess she is, though she seems way more focused on her solo work now.

She sang lead on most of the songs on their last album (just two years ago), what more do you want from her?

She constantly shifted between solo and band albums in the last 20 years or so, so there never has been a notable preference for her. I really like her music, and it’s sad that her and her bandmates’ reputations got tainted by their asshole drummer. Fuck this guy.

You said “tainted”.