I have always liked curvy women (from an early age and still in my 40’s) and I don’t see my tastes shifting over time. I’m sure there is some impact due to the images we see, but I suspect it’s much less pronounced than you seem to be implying.
Do you have specific examples you can think of?
In general I don’t get that impression when I see models, but I don’t really follow the industry so I don’t know who might be considered beautiful.
call me odd, but I prefer a womans personality over looks, eyes, or even health (BTW a guy I knew knowingly & very happily married a woman with MS, confined to a wheelchair).
Maybe that’s why I have the best memories of a 37 yr old woman (from my mid teen yrs)…as I noted in another OP, first and foremost, she was the one I could open up to…every convo was not only cherished, but I can remember most of them verbatim… I have spent many more hours on google trying in vain to find her (after many years) than I have using google to see Anne Hathaway’s famous furry upskirt this week.
Is anyone truly amazed, when people marry because of the other persons physical appearance or fitness, then find out inevitably that those qualities degenerate every minute after adolescence? I can’t begin to count the number of speeches where a husband says when he met his wife, she was the prettiest woman in the _________ (fill in the blank). What attributes, then, does he say he finds in her, after she has spawned 3-4 of his offspring, and looks like Hillary Clinton?
Soul Mate. Interesting that so many say they found their soul mate, then divorce them when they put on 10 too many extra pounds, get 10 too many new wrinkles, or shame on her, come down with a disease like cancer ( paging Newt Gingrich and John Edwards).
I still date 20 something tiny cuties every chance I get (- I mentioned the 24yr old in Chicago as my current diversion) - but will never marry one based on those qualities alone. I just met a woman who is my neighbor for the first time, and even though she is in her 40’s and lost more weight than the Chicago siren weighs, I txt/ email her many times more often than the other.
Maybe the Biblical OT, Q’uran, and Torah had it right. Successful men should be entitled to young nubiles, even if happily married.
Well, in point of fact, there were several posters in that thread who claimed to have trouble understanding how a simple observation of fact could possibly be socially unacceptable.
I rather suspect that these are the same kinds of people who would find it the very pinnacle of hilarity were someone to implore you to eat more hoagies.
I think you misread that thread. There were several posters who thought it was a simple observation of fact that the women were not supposed to see. No one that I remember was advocating the waiter should call them far to their face. Or suggest they eat less.
I was one of those posters (bolding mine). But after following the thread and contemplating the issue, I’ve changed my mind. Identifying someone by their physical characteristics is certainly unprofessional, and probably a dick move.
On the other hand I do get what Troppus is saying. Thin women are often subjected to backhanded “compliments” that are in reality quite hostile.
Sir, are you feeling all right? Would… would you like to sit down?
Certainly they are, and the people doing these things are inconsiderate, unfunny bungholes. Ideally someone would firmly tell them to shut it every time they felt like doing their impression of a hydrocephalic George Carlin. There’s no “on the other hand” about it. We are on the same side.
I am a slender female (and yes, my clavicle, some ribs, and some spine is visible through my skin). I find the ‘anti-skinny’ blowhards just as misguided and offensive as the ‘anti-fat’ blowhards. There is no right or wrong way to be a woman.
I also resent the implication that skinny girls are “skeletal” or look less healthy. I have clear skin, longish hair, and all my limbs are well-formed and intact. While I’ve gotten some stupid comments along the lines of “Oh, you must eat like a bird!” (I don’t), you would have to be seriously deluded to look at me or girls like me and think we look like 10-year-old boys. What the hell kinda 10-year-old boys do y’all hang around?
No one actually thinks that way. The women who make such catty statements are negging in order to elevate their own status, and men who say that are attempting to win the favor and attention of heavier women. It’s just a shitty way for certain people to level the playing field by bullying others into defining beauty on their terms.
I’ve sworn that one day I’d respond to those comments in kind, but on my worst day I’ve never been heartless and mean enough to retaliate.
Jaledin? Are you back?
in school (perhaps before media indoctrination?), you get teased for being fat, not thin.
Nah, kids are just as hard on thin people. It’s just that no authority figure will intervene if a kid is called stick, boney, anorexic, bulemic, scrawny, etc. Thin and average sized people are expected to endure insults gracefully, as evidenced by Helena’s comment above.
Yes. And MSNBC is just as biased as FOX News. And CNN gets it just right.
You have no idea what minorities go through, Ambivalid.
Hands down, Most Ironic Post of The Year.
(whoosh)
Yes, yes it is.
It’s been decades since I was in school, and I don’t have kids, but Troppus, do you have a cite for your statement that skinny kids are teased as much as fat kids, nowadays?
No, no, it’s a whoosh.
I doubt anyone has conducted a study to determine if thin kids are teased as often, so no cite for you. You can poke around here to find anecdotes from thin to average folks about unwelcome and unkind comments from overweight people. Or you could compare the terms {boney, scrawny, anorexic (as a perjorative)} to {pudgy, obese, fat girls}. I feel the sets of terms are equally hurtful and offensive, the difference being that no one would be punished for bullying the skinny kid. What do you think?
Oh. Well don’t let it go to your head; it’s not too hard to (whoosh) me. Being all of about 4 feet tall and all.