Pear pimples for hairy fishnuts?
A boy and his penguin!
I was a bit worried when they immediately jumped to “the Horseman is Death, Horseman of the Apocalypse!” because it seemed so silly in what otherwise seemed relatively grounded, but the rest of the episode continued to be over-the-top and pushing the fantasy angle, so it’s all good. I’ll stick with it, at least for a little while.
Really wish one of the writers took five minutes to google their source material and figure out it’s “Book of Revelation,” no final S.
Timing is everything.
The largest village in New York state (Hempstead) is 54000 people, and larger than several cities in the state - such as Auburn, Batavia, and Canadagua. (Information gained when I looked up how New York defines ‘village’ because, wow, that is a fucking huge village.) New York doesn’t use size in its definition of village, at all, just the physical area the settlement covers. TV!Sleepy Hollow is significantly larger than Hempstead, but that doesn’t stop it from fitting NY’s definition of a village.
I’m surprised nobody is talking about the single largest ‘drag me out of it’ moment in the entire episode - Ichabod’s arrest.
So, Abbie didn’t give a description of the killer, and an unarmed man, covered in dirt, but not blood, wanders into an intersection nowhere near where the crime was committed (unless Sleepy Hollow is laid out in a bizarre fashion, and the ranch where Sherriff Kurgan was killed was just outside the downtown area), while she’s still making the ‘Officer down!’ call, and Officer Sulu immediately suspects him of being the killer, because…it progressed the plot, I guess? Because there’s no valid in-story reason at that point to be all trigger happy about what appears to be a disoriented homeless dude.
I assume the size of the ‘village’ is irrelevant - they call it the ‘village’ as thats its historical name and has nothing to do with the size of it (it grew) - that it was exactly 144,000 was the ‘interesting’ part to me - (IOW, I can live with that).
As for the arrest of Ichabod - I had the same thoughts immediately - but the ending of the episode with ‘sulu’ being in league with the horseman allows it to loop in and make sense.
Revelation/Revelation(s) - no big deal to me.
The police captian’s name is “Irving” -
We enjoyed it and look forward to more - hopefully the ‘ending’ of the episode and the previews pan out.
New York really doesn’t have any rules when it comes to “City” versus “Town” versus “Village” versus “Hamlet” versus “Whatever the Hell Else My State Uses.” That said, most villages are connected to a larger town and none approach 144,000 people. I looked, that would make it the fourth most populous place in the state after NYC, Buffalo, and Rochester.
No it doesn’t. All that does is drag Ichabod into the action. And did Officer Harold even know who Ichabod was as he was just driving leisurely to White Castle? We know he’s in with the devil, but not that he knew any of the bigger picture.
Yeah, that’s why his turning out to be in league with (if not one of) the evil witches didn’t really help with my incredulity at the arrest - how could he know Ichabod was connected at that point? Even if he’s fully in the know, and the evil witches knew as well as the good witches that Ichabod was connected to the Horseman, would the bad guys really have a good enough idea of what Ichabod looked like to ID him stumbling around downtown? I didn’t get the impression he was tangled up in everything for very long (OK, 250 years, but…from when he joined Washington, to when he ‘killed’ the Horseman, I mean), or that the good witches had taken that long to bury him after he did get caught in the whole deal.
I guess we’ll find out before too long, but still…
(I thought the show improved immensely in the second half, and I’ll stick around for at least another couple episodes.)
The show’s called ‘Sleepy Hollow,’ not ‘Legend of the Headless Horseman.’
They’ve established in the first ep that there will be whole lot more going on than just chasing some headless guy around for three or four seasons. To the best of my knowledge, no one’s ever tackled the 4 horsemen yet on tv. Could be very successful - or it’ll sink under its own weight.
I liked it. We’ll see how it goes. For now, it’s on my record/watch list.
Exactly - so, it was a ‘plot device’ to get Ichabod into the police department - but its ‘reasonable’ that Officer Harold (thnks) had ‘orders and information’ from the horseman/league of demons to try and contain Ichabod. IOW, it was jarring at the beginning of the episode - with the reveal at the end - it makes a ‘little’ more sense story wise.
But people thought she was. It wouldn’t be allowed.
And why is the County Sheriff’s office in the City police building, or, what the hell is the city police Captain doing in the Sheriff’s office?
And why the hell did they name the Captain Irving? :rolleyes:
Right now, we don’t know if anyone beyond the good witches even know Ichabod was resurrected.
The good witch said that Ichabod and the Horseman were ‘bound by blood’ - its reasonable that the Horseman/demons know this as well, and if the Horseman is back, they would be expecting Ichabod to come back as well - having a minion on the lookout for Ichabod is not unreasonable.
The timing of said ‘running into’ is more the problem, and one the writers glosssed over as the aforementioned plot device.
What turned Captain Irving around from wanting Crane locked up to having hime help investigate?
And what is a city police doing giving orders to a county sheriff’s deputy?
The Winchesters tacked the Four Horsemen. Of course, they didn’t ride horses–they drove. Anybody who can enjoy Supernatural can get behind this show.
I’ll turn my critical thinking meter way down–as long as the plots continue to move quickly, there’s a bit of humor & the lead continues to be a cutie. (Word is he learns about a shower soon.) Hey, I like Greco-Roman myth & legend–and history; but I also enjoyed Xena…
The other two cops saying they saw the Headless Horseman. The chief reasons for holding Crane were his suspicion in the murders and his claims about the Horseman, which Abbie wouldn’t corroborate. He was in police custody for the other deaths, so once other people came forward about the Horseman, he’s just a homeless guy telling the same story as everyone else.
My mini-gripe was that Abbie could have backed his story from the jump, simply saying “I’m not saying the guy was headless, I’m saying his get-up made him look that way - I don’t know how. Seems like this guy saw him too.” Once we’re all agreed that someone in Revolutionary-era garb is decapitating people with a broad axe, is it really a stretch to say they guy’s outfit mimics a local legend about being headless?
Something in the show that makes sense. 
Thanks!
What reveal at the end? The demon dude (who I suspect may actually be the Captain) killed Sulu, then escaped into the mirror? I tried to freeze frame on a close up of the mirror to try to see the demon’s face, but I could not get a clear frame…
Yes. Classic tales are classics for a reason. So starting with them as a premise can lay the groundwork for a solid story. I think the last thing you want to do though is be locked in to the structure of those predecessors. You also don’t want to alienate your audience by being overly pedantic.
What makes a reworking of an old story shine is the synthesis of new elements with the old and the creation of something new that springs from that synthesis. Sometimes what you get is an incoherent mish-mosh. But sometimes what you get is pure genius. Where this falls on the spectrum, we’ll have to see.
The reveal that Officer Harold was working with the demon league and the Horseman - as to who that demon is - I assume at this point he’s none of the Characters we’ve met.
I’m really hoping they don’t pull a Grimm and have the Captain be one.