Smallville Season 5 Premier tonight!

It’s a bird! It’s a plane! No, it’s the Season Premier!

Word on the street is Clark builds his bigass fortress, comes clean with Chloe, and gets it on with Lana. Be sure to set your TiVos, citizens.

Thanks, citizen. I would have totally missed it.

Of course, it’s on at the same time as Survivor. Argh. I’m taping it, so I’ll be late to the thread. :slight_smile:

Oh no!

Clark lost his powers for good!

I guess this was the last episode ever, right? :stuck_out_tongue:

Was that supposed to be

General Zod

at the end?

I saw the last minute and a half–

It’s Brainiac.

Ok, I wasn’t that caught up in last season’s “lets find these mystical stones” arc, so I was only watching to see the fortress. And then I read the opening credits, and got sucked in by one thing:

Guest starring: James Marsters.
:eek:

Then Lionel started raving about “the Disciples of Zod”, and my hopes of seeing Spike say “Son of Jor-el, kneel before Zod!” kept me watching.

After only having him in the end teaser (but at least they gave him a good entrance), I couldn’t resist checking imdb, and I have to admit Braniac is just as good

And who was the actor playing the male disciple? Imdb doesn’t seem to have his credit (although the female one was), and he kept bugging me with his familiarity. I think the Kryptonian eye effect was throwing me off…

I may have to see where this goes this year…

Well, I eventually realized “duh, you DVRed it, go check the credits”. Leonard Roberts. But of course, imdb chose right now to go down (or my , so that didn’t immediately help me any.

After some googling, it turns out it wasn’t the eyes throwing me, it was the lack of an orange sweater: he was Forrest, the frat boy / special forces / demon hunter / sidekick of Riley / eventual human+demon+cyborg from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

You forgot the phantom zone too!! :stuck_out_tongue:

So, two actors from “Buffy” were in this episode; interesting, considering how much “Smallville” owes to that show. Good to see James Marsters again; I wonder what kind of accent he’ll have.

What’s going on with Lionel? He’s not seen after having a Zod-related freakout and giving Lana the vital information about Kryptonite (or “meteor rocks”). Good plan on Lana’s part; almost worked. Then poor Lana gets knocked unconscious, yet again. (Everybody but Clark seems to get knocked out several times a year; that’s really not good for you.)

Both the Fortress of Solitude and the Phantom Zone looked just like they did in the Christopher Reeve Superman movie.

I hate to sound like a fanboy (for one thing, I’m about to turn 45), but wouldn’t it be nice if Clark would, finally, just sit down with Lex, have some coffee and tell him the truth, for once? Lex knows Clark lies all the time; as long as he’s being lied to he’ll keep trying to find out the truth. Whereas if Clark took him into his confidence, I think Lex would be his strongest ally. (Of course, the established mythology requires that they end up as arch-enemies.) Lex and Lionel are the characters who’ve made the show interesting enough for me to watch; the actors Michael Rosenbaum and John Glover do a great job.

John Glover is just evil, totally evil. He’s excellent.

I was somewhat let down that there was no huge “superfight”, but at least Clark has someone besides his parents and Stupid Pete who knows his secret. Also, they have a dead body in their house…I’d get him moved out quick.

Lex has really not shown any reason why Clark SHOULD tell him. He’s started slipping to the dark side already. I’m just thinking of the day Clark finally sees he’s evil and Bo Kent dances around shouting “I told you so!”

Lana should have pushed them in the vault, but oh well.

Also, I still have faint hope that a “real” Zod will show up, but I’m willing to let Brainy Spike hold the evil reins for now.

Yeah, the newspaper seemed to know he was dead, but they ignored that fact that Jason’s corpse was buried in the same rubble they dug Martha out of.

She had a wounded leg, and also has an IQ of approximately 23. In her defense, the door of the vault was torn off and lying on the floor across the room. KryptonForrest had to move it into place to seal off the vault. The IQ of 23 comes into play here though, because she really should have realized that the door wasn’t closable. Maybe she thought a mere, brief exposure would kill them outright.

You know, of all the characters on this show, I think Lana’s killed the most people except MAYBE Lionel.

What if the “Voice of Jor-El” has really been Zod all along? He seems really different in voice and personality from the Jor-El we saw visiting Smallville in the 1960s flashback episode. That would be a fun swerve, especially given who’s providing his voice.

The Kryptonians from last night were the only ones we’ve ever seen arrive clothed. Everyone else gets deposited on Earth bare-assed nekkid. :smiley:

Lexy spread the wealth around to help Lana, thus he became more eeeevil…hey wait a minute…

I’d die if it turned out that she was actually the mastermind all this time, like a “Bad Seed” kinda thing. Maybe she planned the meteor shower to off her parents… :eek:

Krypton sucks!

I was waiting for the Terminator at the end to have the Brainic tri-eye thing going. Maybe next episode.

Maybe its’ because I haven’t seen her all summer, but Chloe was looking real good this episode.

As for the “knocked out count” I have three. That was last season’s average. Actually I think last season might have been 4 per episode.

The big blowup between Clark and Lex will be because of the lies and evasions. Lex so far has been one of the good guys. Even in those cases where he “removes” someone or something, his intentions are mostly good. He is protecting his friends. He thinks he is doing what is right. When he finds out he was (in his view) being played for a fool by people he trusted and helped, the shit will hit the fan. Lex already knows that something is going on, and has been going on for years. On the other hand, he already has the emotional baggage from his father Lionel (who is a GREAT bad guy) and repressed memories of his mother’s death. Then there was the episode when he found out that Lionel killed grannie and grandpa. Serious baggage. He wants to be a good guy, but was raised in a severely dysfunctional atmosphere, to be a bad guy. When he finally turns, it will be like an explosion. A lifetime of anger and resentment will be focused on anyone unlucky enough to be at ground zero. It is obvious that loyalty means a lot to him. So, any perceived “betrayal” will be answered with rage. That will be the Big Red Button That Should Not Be Pushed

I’m not sure what role Marsters will play. The two Kryptonians are disciples of General Zod, then is Marsters going to be General Zod? If so then why the Terminator “re-assembly”? That seems more like a machine (Brainiac).

Yeah, Marsters is Braniac. My personaly theory is Brainiac took control of those two, hence the green eyes, to search for Clark. Lackeys, you know.

Though I can’t help thinking that the choice of Terrence Stamp as the voice of Jor-El is more than a coincidence or a cute “homage”…Zod is one of the all time best movie villians.

Ok, help me out a bit. Did Clark tell Lana everything at the end? It looked like he was, but naturally I got interrupted. Too many of my brain cells are dead - who is Brainiac in the Superman story - I just can’t seem to remember him.

Basically Brainiac is a thing that wants to digitize and catalog all the information in the universe. Not a horrible idea except for the fact that after he finishes getting the info he destroys the source so that it can’t produce anymore information. I believe in the old days he was an alien, but now he’s usually rendered as a type of machine be it robot or computer virus.

I don’t think he told Lana everything.

It should be noted that Braniac was the computer that basically ran Krypton (in at least one version of continuity.) It escaped right before the planet blowed up real good.

I don’t think he told Lana anything!

Clark: Lana, I don’t want anything to come between us. No more secrets. No more lies

Lana: What the hell? Clark this is the 73rd straight week you’ve said that line to me. I’d have to be more gullible than Charlie Brown with a football to fall for that again.

Clark: Seriously, this time I swear it’s different. I super swear. With cherries on top. And look. Look at my hands! No fingers are crossed. You can trust me this time. I’ll tell you everything.

Lana: Everything?

Clark: Yes. Absolutely. 73rd time is the charm.

Lana: ok, but first let me let you in on another of my secrets. Then I’m sure there will be no interruption between then and the time when you tell me your secret. Deal?

Clark: Deal!