Smiley Face Serial Killer?

Why am I just now hearing about this? Sounds like, if it’s true, it’s a major item. Doing a search (after hearing a news report) about the missing person/drowning victim they had on the news here a while ago I found this.

Drowning in Coincidence || Missing Student Mystery || Vance Holmes -- Poetic Justice seems people had been putting this together years ago. But just now people are making noise about it.

http://kstp.com/article/stories/s421846.shtml?v=1 (article/case files/video that auto starts)

If this turns out to be correct, wow a nationwide group of killers all targeting athletic young men. Freaky and scary.

Per the above link (bolding mine)

This looks suspiciously like the “cheat code” from Mortal Combat that throws an opponent into the rive… er… tiger pit.

Here I thought you where joking… but you’re not. It’s actually matches two codes, Mortal Combat and Ultimate Marvel Alliance cheat code (for all powers)

That smiley face they use, does it look like a cross on his forehead? If this is found to be true what really freaks me out is the level of coordination across such a wide area between multiple killers and still eluding suspicion for a decade or more.

Just in a cursory reading, the first link seems to be written in a less-than matter-of-fact manner. For example, take the case of the Iowa State student Abel Bolanos, who drowned in Lake LaVerne.

Wow, a kid out by a lake? Sounds remote. But Lake LaVerne is a small artificial “lake” (more of a pond, really) that is right in the middle of campus. It is literally across the street from several major bars and right between the “Campustown” area on Welch with all the bars and the main campus. It is right next to one major dorm complex and a few blocks from another. A really drunk student could easily have fallen in the lake and been overwhelmed by the cold water in short order. My parents live in Ames, I visit frequently - nobody was surprised or mystified by the death’s circumstances (at least no more than any other accidental death), just saddened.

To show some specifics, here is a Google Maps link of Lake LaVerne. To the immediate south is the bar area. To the immediate east is the Memorial Union. To the immediate west is a dorm building (forget the name) and northward is more campus buildings.

Yeah the first link I actually found after catching just a piece of the report on TV (just the audio) and then I thought of a WV case that made the news here not that long ago young man, drinking, disappearing, turning up drowned, accidental cause.

So I went to Google to see if that case was part of this group they where talking about did a search and that was the first link that came up, I only did a cursory reading on it myself as there layout wasn’t the easiest for me to stay focused on. Just found it interesting that someone was putting this all together a long time before the news started carrying the suspicions.

The next link was the more informative link that had more to do with the news report I overheard.

All in all, I think something is mighty weird here, finding the smiley faces next to the spots where many of these kids got in the water, codes etc. Something like a real life video game and I’d like nothing more than to find out it was all coincidence and they really did die in tragic accidents.

I guess to clarify, if there is other physical evidence, great, I’m glad they’re looking into a potential serial murderer. I just think that it’s pretty silly to be surprised that really drunk college kids (boys especially - girls tend to travel in groups due to sexual assaults) are sometimes found drowned, and to see Ames dragged into it. I mean, hell. You’d have to have balls the size of watermelons to try to hide a body in Lake LaVerne. There is no angle at which it is easy to access by car without being extremely visible from multiple angles in a pedestrian-heavy area (at all times of day). And even if you managed to do it, how would the tire tracks or at minimum footprints/drag marks have escaped notice of the police when the body was found? It was a really snowy winter in Iowa.

This sounds much more like a coincidence than a pattern, to me.

The latest ratings “sweeps” started on April 24th. I think that might have something to do with the reporting of this.

Now the first of the big national news organizations picked up the story, Homeland Security | Fox News it’s bound to be disputed as false or more facts can follow.

For a coincidence to be honest IMHO it is all very fishy for 40 deaths. All close in age, all male, all under the same circumstances through 10 states, with the same smiley face in 5 of those states next to the place the victim was put in/fell in the water seems very odd.

Yes this case is bugging me, because if it is true then it’s a very unusual case isn’t it? A group working together to randomly kill young men, a serial killer club? That would be just plain scary shit.

Once you fell in the water, presuming you were super drunk, I can see that there’d be a fair probability of drowning. But I’m not sure that drunkenness would make me want to go in or near a body of water. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe guys do things like climb up on bridge railings, etc.

We’ve had a couple of these deaths in the Minnesota - Wisconsin area, and it chilled my blood when my husband told me about it. The scenario that **fluiddruid **outlined is precisely why it’s so chilling - drunk students next to bodies of water (frequently really cold, especially up here), it’s no wonder people don’t really think twice and are only saddened by the tragedy. “Poor bastard was drunk and fell in,” everyone thinks, so it’s not analyzed as closely as it maybe should be.

I don’t know if it’s just coincidence or not, but I’m not too inclined to think so. I’d love to find out that it just was, but I’m really hoping authorities look into it more closely.

Then that’s assuming a group of them also decided to paint a similar smiley face next to where they went in. Sounds weird as is, but those smiley faces almost makes it seal the deal for me, fishy.

The article showed/discussed a handful of smiley faces. What it didn’t say (I’m assuming because it wasn’t sustainable) was that every case had such a graffito. [I realize you didn’t contend that they did, it’s just that the story was a bit vague].

That’s correct not all had the graffiti near the point, but across 5 states it was there in some of the cases. The other similarities hinted at in the article age, race, athletic prowess, academic records where very vague in the article. The smilies though, that is something that would have me looking deeper if I where a policeman or a family member.

In your second link Chris Jenkins’ mom says:

but they never say how they know this. Just that it was the case that broke the thing open and the only one that was declared a homocide. Is there any more info about how they know all this?

Okay, as far as graffiti around here goes, I can probably find a simely face on every overpass or bridge.

:slight_smile:

I think we have a suspect…

Well, duh. Check out the username. It’s a pretty obvious alias.

Is that true? I was thinking much the same thing. Of random things to sketch if you are doing graffiti sketches, that is not far from the top of the list.