Good decision. Whatever our politics we should always leave the kids out of it.
Agreed, the kids shouldn’t be brought into it. No matter what side you favor, leave the kids alone.
Please. They call them jokes.It was open season on Chelsea Clinton in the 90s.
I can’t see piling onto this woman at the moment. It will be used as a distraction so the plutocrats can pick your country clean, while you whine about it.
i thought all decent people understood the minor children are off-limits.
No reason to match. Remember “they go low, we go high”? Stay high.
Barron shouldn’t be the target of tit for tat.
Two wrongs still don’t make a right. How can you not be in favor of some fucking decency?
I, for one, can focus on more than one thing at a time.
Agreed. However, for the benefit of Republicans/conservatives who are feeling sanctimonious about this unacceptable behavior, it’s worth pointing out some of the things their side have said about a President’s minor children in order to take political potshots at their parent(s).
I never heard of Limbaugh or Tantaros or Beck being suspended or disciplined in any way for any of those remarks.
Actually, as I remember, as Chelsea’s parents became the first family, Mike Myers and Dana Carvey on their Wayne’s World segment on SNL made some mild references to Chelsea’s looks, i.e. “a babe in waiting”. Hillary immediately chided them, and most media agreed, so much so that “Leave Chelsea alone.” became a catchphrase for a brief period. The offending jokes were dropped from SNL rebroadcasts, and the most lampooning that Chelsea got after that was a cameo appearance in Beavis and Butthead Do America.
It’s often mentioned that the Clintons did a extraordinary job of keeping Chelsea’s childhood in the White House fairly normal.
I like to think I can too. But the media can’t, most of the populace can’t, and I think democracy is having a lot of trouble doing it right at the moment. So why are we so special?
It’s not the fact of not being “able” to do it. We distract ourselves so we don’t have to look at what we don’t want to.
The kid is suffering and it’s not SNL writers that are doing it. He is being used like a doll. He’s always there a little lost at these orwellian events like the little child that donnie left behind in becoming a vacuous needy moral hole. He looks like a perfect symbol. But the family is totally unconscious.
He is being brought up in a home where he has a whole floor to himself. He is going to need a lot of helping. Protecting him from tweets is last on my list.
SNL never has done a joke about Barron.
In the 90s Limbaugh was vicious to chelsea. That might have been the origin of the catchphrase. It was necessary.
And they should have been. What’s your point?
She worked there… but what has this to do with SNL? She’s not Lorne Michaels.
Was she on the clock when she posted it? Whats the time stamp say?
Also, is this big because of who she worked for or because of who she tweeted about?
Glad you asked. My point’s right over here. (Note that I wasn’t accusing you personally of sanctimony or hypocrisy.)
And maybe even disabilities.
I was pretty sure we could all say leave the kids out of this, but apparently not.
Reject the joke loudly.
Go on to reject all jokes that are punching down just as loudly.
Join us, conservatives! JOIIINNNNN USSSSSSS!!!
‘I think peoples families are off limits and people’s children are especially off limit.’
Barack Obama, 2008
(Just in case there’s misunderstanding, I’m just using Patx2’s post to agree with the sentiment, and say I would have thought this was obvious but other posts in this thread make the case that apparently it’s not. On re-read, I thought it may have looked like I was trying to contradict or something by replying to it, so I just wanted to clarify.)
Can we make fun of his adult children though, like Donald Jr.? Is 18 the cutoff? (just to be clear)
I’m not even sure how the joke is supposed to be funny. Like… who’s he going to shoot? His mother? His father? The servants? Beyond the minor conceptual absurdity of a “home school shooter” as a general concept, what’s the point?
There is some degree of extremely mild humour involving the kids that I think is fair and harmless, i.e. I remember some trivial kerfuffle about the ritual “pardoning of the turkey” that for reason the U.S. president gets roped into. Some commentators had made mildly disparaging remarks (which struck me as stupid) about Sasha and Malia’s rather dubious attitude while watching Obama go through the process, but Jon Stewart pointed out that they were behaving like any teen-aged girls would when watching their father doing something silly. “Sure, Dad, whatever… [eyeroll]…”
So if the kids do something funny at a public event, sure… get some mild laughs out of it, but suggesting the kids are stupid or ugly or potentially violent or whatever… fuck you, get a life.
Once the kid turns 18 and especially if they have a sustained role of some kind in their parent’s administration, fair game.