Snorers/Sleep Apnea Patients: The Sleep Angel

I do both: snore and have sleep apnea and I probably need to use CPAP at night, but I’m like just about every other med-pro, I know: I can take care of others, but won’t take care of myself worth a damn.

So I came across an internet ad for this product: The Sleep Angel, which looks like a harness that you wear on your head and across your chin, and it’s supposed to keep your mouth closed and make you breathe through your nose.

Have any of you tried it and if so, have you had success with it?

It lists for about 58 bucks direct from the manufaturer, although you can find it cheaper on E-Bay.

If you’ve had experience with this thing, please post your comments.

Thanks

Q

i’d like to know, too.
my dad has sleep apnea.

Yet another (mild) sleep apnew person who’s interested.

If it doesn’t work, for ghod’s sake, use the CPAP. The difference is like night and day. You sleep better, you feel more rested… And you stop getting yelled at for snoring. :slight_smile:

Erm, what’s the CPAP? asked apnea sufferer Evil Captor. Some miracle thingie?

I don’t know the answer to the question, but I agree with ArrrMatey.

I have had the CPAP for 2.5 years and it is my best friend. I took it to England with me and am about to take it to France.

It looks hideous, but you get over it.

I wish I could get my mother to use one. Her snoring shakes the walls. She would have to go through the sleep study again, which she just couldn’t stand. I had to do it twice to succeed. The second time I was determined to ignore all the stuff stuck all over me, including a tube stuck up my nose and down the back of my throat. It was worth it!

Forgive me for a loooong answer for Evil Captor, but IAACPAPU. (I am a CPAP user)

CPAP stands for Continuous Positive Air Pressure. Think of a small machine, maybe twice the thickness of a waffle iron, that is a quiet, high quality air pump. It pumps room air under pressure through a one inch tube up to a mask that fits over your nose like a fighter pilot’s oxygen mask. You also wear a simple elastic band that holds your jaw closed. The air is pumped in through your nose and keeps your throat from collapsing when you fall asleep.

That’s the real problem with sleep apnea. Often we sufferers are overweight and when we fall into the really deep sleep our muscles relax so much that the airway closes. That wakes us up partway — enough to tighten the muscles again — and we drift back to deeper sleep where the muscles relax again, and the cycle repeats. As a result, we never get really deep, satisfying sleep and often find ourselves sleepy during the day. In extreme cases, apnea sufferers have been known to fall asleep while driving or other dangerous situations. Or, in really, really serious cases, never wake up enough to retighten the airway and die in our sleep.

WARNING: The above is horribly simplified. But my wife noticed that I would sometimes stop breathing in my sleep for up to 20 or 30 seconds and then start up again with a snort. I also, apparently, snored ferociously.

Not sure about everybody’s experience with a sleep test. Lillith Fair, when I had mine four years ago, I had various sensors glued to my skin, but no tubes in my nose, thank goodness. As always, the medics where you are may run things differently.

I was found to have a fairly mild form of sleep apnea, but enough to warrent a CPAP machine. It’s a spendy little bugger — mine cost about $1300 — but insurance covered most of that. I was out a couple hundred bucks, max. The special sleep test cost about the same and was also paid by insuracne. On the plus side, it has needed not one bit of maintenance other than changing the soft spongy filter every once in a while. I still haven’t used up all the filters that came with the machine.

I have replaced the headgear once, with a new style that has two soft pieces that fit in the end of my nostrils and don’t cover the entire nose area. That seems to work better in getting a seal because I have a moustache, which is a bit of a problem with the cover-the-nose pilot’s style.

The headgear, by the way, looks sort of like the liner to a hard hat. It’s made of much softer stuff, with lots of velcro to adjust for maximum comfort. The whole unit plus hose plus headgear fits in a smallish travel bag that came with it. I have taken it to a number of hotels and never failed to find a plugin handy by the bedside (I usually unplug the bedside clock radio).

One hint: pay the extra few bucks for a humidifier attachment. It’s a reservoir filled with distilled water that the air rushes over before it gets to your nose, and keep you from drying out. A 99¢ gallon of distilled water will last me a month.

And, yes, the first time I put the thing on I felt like a total fool. If my wife had laughed, that would have been it. BUT once I’d slept with it a couple of times and felt a really good night’s sleep for the first time in who knows how many years, I knew i would never go back to being without one.

Thanks for your patience. If anyone would like to know more, my e-mail is in my profile. I’m so happy with my CPAP, I have even appeared in a booth at the local health fair, wearing and demonstrating it, helping to talk other shy apnea sufferers into giving it a try.

I was going to start a thread on whether or not people had trouble in their sleep studies. I could not sleep for the life of me. It was so annoying, it turns out that it happens to a lot of people.

I’ve hear that using a CPAP machine greatly improves sleep, I’d LOVE to be able to have a decent night’s sleep for the first time in 20 years

I used to snore so loud it was ridiculous. I take a Benadryl every night before I go to bed now. I haven’t had a problem with snoring since (3 years). :slight_smile:

I have severe Obstructive Sleep Apnea and have been using a CPAP for about a year now. The difference is incredible.

The sleep study was awkward and I didn’t sleep through much of it, but they got all the information they needed in one night. I was hooked up to a bunch of sensors, but nothing in my nose or throat.

My machine itself is pretty much as has been described already. I do have a humidifier on my unit and I need a full face mask, although from what I gather most people don’t. Mine does have the “fighter pilot” look. The cost was $1100, of which my insurance covered $1000.

It was a little weird to get used to, but the excellent results I got inspired me to keep going. Within a week I had worked up to a full night on the machine and felt better than I had in many years. My head is clearer, my energy is higher and my emotions are much more in check (I felt like I had PMS all the time and I’m not even female). I’m much more “there” than I was. I didn’t know people could be this awake!

It’s amazing what going 30 years without a good night’s sleep will do to you and how easy it is to correct with just a week’s worth of good nights.

Why do you want to stop snoring? I woulnd’t want a contraption on my head at night. At night I want to relax and sleep. Of course I am single and don’t have to worry about bothering anyone but my trusty dog and somehow she hasn’t complained yet!

Stopping snoring is kind of a side benefit of the CPAP. The main reasons I wear “a contraption on my head at night” are the following:

  1. So I actually sleep at night instead of waking up ever so slightly over 100 times in the 8 hour span I’m in bed due to my collapsed airway preventing me from breathing
  2. So I don’t wake up with headaches from that whole thing mentioned in #1
  3. So I can stay away during the day
  4. So I don’t have increased risk of heart problems which sleep apnea can cause

Oh, and not waking myself up from the volume of my snoring is nice, too.

Basically, people, if you think the CPAP is just about the snoring, you’re totally not getting the extent to which sleep apnea can harm a person – even if it’s just wrecking your quality of life.

Plus, I like the white noise of the machine…

HometownBoy , that was an incredibly detailed description of CPAP and its benefits, thanks!

I still don’t know any more than I did about the Sleep Angel, but y’all have got me convinced to get my own CPAP.

Guess I’ll go see my doc and get a sleep study done, because I think I’m gonna need it.

On one of my recent trips to Germany my friend Peter told me at breakfast the next morning that he heard me snoring and came to my room to check on me. He told me about the 20 seconds of non-breathing and then showed me his CPAP and extolled its virtues, much as y’all have done.

Thank y’all so much, I’m supposed to know all this, but I think I’ve been repressing it. :wink:

Q

Dunno if this will help any other folks with sleeping disorders, but during my last trip to Vegas, I didn’t experience any of my usual sleep apnea symptoms – headaches, drowsiness – during the whole trip. After pondering it a bit, I theorized that the small, firm, rounded hotel pillow I was sleeping with might have elevated my head so I could sleep better.

I tested the theory at home by sleeping with two pillows instead of one, and it’s made a noticable improvement. By propping up my head four or five inches, and sleeping on my side, I’ve almost completely eliminated all of my earlier symptoms – I don’t wake up with a dry throat, I almost never have any headaches, and I don’t get drowsy as easily as I have before.

I don’t claim it’s a total cure, and I’m still interested in the CPAP, but the rest of you might want to give it a try.

I’m highly dubious about the sleep angel. Snorers and sleep apnea sufferers often have nasal obstructions which means we can’t breath through our nose, so keeping our mouth shut is not going to work. Good luck to you nose breathers though.

Hometownboy has told my story, exactly. Even down to changing the type of mask. The nose-covering mask with the “gel” seal gave me awful whiteheads the size of raisins. The type of mask I switched to is the same as Hometownboy uses – the soft nasal inserts are called nasal pillows. If they fit properly, the nasal pillows form a seal over each nostril, and only protrude maybe 1/8 of an inch into your nose.

You have to make sure your nasal pillows are the right size, though. During my second sleep test, I slept with a CPAP and a nasal-pillow mask. The nasal pillows were way too small and they ended up jammed in my nostrils during the night. In the morning, I felt like Muhammad Ali had given me a left jab to the schnozz.

My apnea is significant, but mild enough that laying on my side helps. Side-laying helps me fall asleep quietly and with improved breathing. But I change positions during sleep, so I end up on my back and the apnea kicks back in.

I have sleep apnea that often occurs during REM sleep. I can get the air in but it won’ t come back out and within a few seconds I have to wake up enough to move my head so I can breath again. Does anyone else have this? It’s gotten worse in recent months but I think I’ve had it as far back as the fifth grade. I remember waking up from dreams where I was choking even back then.

And yes, I’ve been depressed, moody, and easily tired out during the day for most of my life. So has my mother, so it may run in the family.

Another CPAP user here.

I had some pretty bad snoring. I was so loud that frequently my wife had to leave the room. This caused other problems. She felt quilty that she didn’t want to sleep in the same bed as her husband. Plus sleep deprivation for both of us had effects that looked a lot like clinical depression.

Finally I did the sleep study. I had to go two nights. One straight and one with a CPAP machine. I had A LOT of sensors hooked up to me but no tubes down the throat.

Now I have one of these babies . I use the ‘nasal pillows’ and yes I look stupid. But my wife sleeps with me now and we both get a good nights sleep. During the first test I woke up about 30 times an hour because I couldn’t breathe. With the CPAP I woke .72 times an hour. (POINT 72). I don’t fall asleep on the subway, I don’t take a nap after lunch, I feel more alert all day.

Now if I could just keep the cat from batting the hose around at 4 am.

Agreed. I actually breathe better through my mouth (but not good either way). It’s a cinch I’ve got a deviated septum. (That’s where the cartilage/tissue strip that separates your nostrils is crumpled instead of straight)

My snoring/apnea isn’t quite bad enough to consider a CPAP yet, but I can recommend that snore spray, Snor-Enz I think it’s called. It really does help some (for me anyway). You spray it in the back of your mouth and somehow it firms and tightens the uvula and soft palate.

My brother’s apnea was life-threatening; he actually had surgery. They removed some tissue from the back of his throat and fixed his deviated septum.

My mom’s husband uses a CPAP with the nasal pillows – he didn’t like the mask at all. It makes a very noticeable difference in both of their moods, since he’s sleeping better and not snoring, so that SHE sleeps better!

I only wish they’d had these things ten years ago. My dad had TERRIBLE apnea. I’m convinced it had a lot to do with his death.
Yes, DEATH. Apnea isn’t anything to laugh at.