How has he affected your life in a bad way? No WMD hysterics, no slaughtering of babies rhetoric. YOU. How is YOUR life worse today than before Jan 2001?
We’re not rich, but we paid less in taxes than we did 3 years ago as a percentage. We’re flying cross-country soon, and we feel safer now than we did 2 years ago. We means my wife and I.
Bush is a Nazi? This is getting tired for anyone over 14. Show me 5 direct links between Bush and Hitler and I’ll eat my shoe. Not convoluted, pot-shot barbs, but rather why I should fear another Reich.
I’m with you 100%, dude. I like some of the things he’s done, I don’t like others, I personally think he’s not what he wants everyone to think he is, but I think that comparison is way out of bounds and is used way too often over stuff that people simply disagree with his Administration over.
I used to live in what I thought was a functional democracy, but in 2000 Bush and his cronies stole the Presidential election. My vote was meaningless. YOU probably don’t think he did that, but I and a lot of other Americans think he did, and I think I’m a lot poorer for living in a tin-pot Third World “democracy” instead of the shining beacon of democracy I thought America was.
Bush led us into a meaningless, unnecessary war with Iraq. Saddam did not have nuclear weapons or WMDs and the Bush admin KNEW that when they led us to war. It really was all about the oil, and getting revenge on Daddy’s old foe. A lot of Americans who might otherwise be alive are DEAD because of this. Now, I personally wasn’t killed or even wounded, but I don’t think you have to be personally killed by a murderer to think that murderer is a terrible person.
Bush is dismantling environmental protections that will eventually hurt every single American. Like breathing? Like drinking clean water? Gonna get a little harder every year unless we turn Bush’s policies around.
My prospects of finding employment and/or business success are greatly diminished because of Bush’s stupid-ass voodoo economics policies of giving tax breaks to the wealthy and corporations. I’m not wealthy, means I personally am gonna be paying more taxes to keep wealthy people and corporations rolling in it.
While I do not believe America will ever become the Fourth Reich and think of people that compare us to the Third as insane, there are certain policies of his, including the scarier aspects of the Patriot Act, that scare the fuck out of me. That, in addition to his hate-mongering towards homosexuals and his rabid Christian partisanship (I’m bisexual and an atheist) have given me enough reason to thoroughly dislike the man.
Dude, you’re both fools. The crafting of the illusion that the US suddenly became “unsafe” in september 2001 and suddenly “safer” over summer 2003 is one of the major reasons Bush is unfit to be the president. He first tweaks the US public into being paranoid about “terrorism”, and then soothes the false paranoia with overstated assurances of how much safer we are.
The fact that you think you’re now somehow magically safer on an airplane seems well within the realm of “WMD hysterics” that you deride in your post. What did you think, that Saddam was going to randomly blow your plane out of the sky? Guess what? 99.9999% of planes were safe before 9/11. 99.9999% of planes are safe now. Get over it.
In January 2001, I had a job as an environmental analyst. Now I’m a bartender.
Maybe I can’t blame him directly for the layoffs that cut my old department from 15 people down to two, but his administration isn’t exactly strong on job creation or environmental enforcement.
Did you know that Bush is the first president since Herbert Hoover to have a net job loss happen under his watch? Isn’t war supposed to create jobs?
That said, Bush is obviously not a Nazi. Hitler cut unemployment from 6 million to 1 million by 1936*.
*this in no way should be considered an endorsement of fascism. I’m just saying is all…
I used to live in what I thought was a functional democracy, but in 2000 Bush and his cronies stole the Presidential election. My vote was meaningless. YOU probably don’t think he did that, but I and a lot of other Americans think he did, and I think I’m a lot poorer for living in a tin-pot Third World “democracy” instead of the shining beacon of democracy I thought America was
It’s called the Electoral College, he won
Bush led us into a meaningless, unnecessary war with Iraq. Saddam did not have nuclear weapons or WMDs and the Bush admin KNEW that when they led us to war. It really was all about the oil, and getting revenge on Daddy’s old foe. A lot of Americans who might otherwise be alive are DEAD because of this. Now, I personally wasn’t killed or even wounded, but I don’t think you have to be personally killed by a murderer to think that murderer is a terrible person.
I asked how YOU were affected.
Bush is dismantling environmental protections that will eventually hurt every single American. Like breathing? Like drinking clean water? Gonna get a little harder every year unless we turn Bush’s policies around.
Shit, you figured us out. We don’t want to breath clean air and drink clear water either. Foiled again!
My prospects of finding employment and/or business success are greatly diminished because of Bush’s stupid-ass voodoo economics policies of giving tax breaks to the wealthy and corporations. I’m not wealthy, means I personally am gonna be paying more taxes to keep wealthy people and corporations rolling in it.
We’re nowhere near being rich ourselves, but we do pay less in taxes, thanks to the likes of Gates, et al to pick up the tab.
That’ll do, for starters.
Recharge the battery and try again.
While I do not believe America will ever become the Fourth Reich and think of people that compare us to the Third as insane, there are certain policies of his, including the scarier aspects of the Patriot Act, that scare the fuck out of me. That, in addition to his hate-mongering towards homosexuals and his rabid Christian partisanship (I’m bisexual and an atheist) have given me enough reason to thoroughly dislike the man
My wife and I don’t break the law so I could care less what the gov’t wants to know. You really beleive they didn’t know what they wanted before 2000?!?
I guess if Hitler were actually running for president against Bush, you’d have a good point - “Vote Bush! He’s not as bad as Hitler!”.
As things stand, though, it doesn’t make such a great campaign slogan.
Well, guess that answered the question :rolleyes:
The fact that you think you’re now somehow magically safer on an airplane seems well within the realm of “WMD hysterics” that you deride in your post. What did you think, that Saddam was going to randomly blow your plane out of the sky? Guess what? 99.9999% of planes were safe before 9/11. 99.9999% of planes are safe now. Get over it.
And the last airliner to hit a major city in the US was…
Oh, I might be willing to grant that flying is a little bit safer now…maybe 99.99995% now. But we have to balance this against a massive increase in the irritation, inconvenience, expense, and general hassle of flying for every single passenger. Personally, I don’t think it’s worth it for that tiny increase in safety.
So you’re perfectly okay with the government curtailing your rights because they’re suspicious that you **might ** be a terrorist? I think that might be more frightening than the bill itself.
Yeah, and the last airliner before 9/11, and before the practice of patting down old ladies and confiscating nail clippers, was…?
Are you a Simpsons fan at all? Are you familiar with the “Bear Patrol” episode?
[from memory]
Lisa: By that logic, I could say that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: How does it work?
Lisa: It doesn’t work! But you don’t see any tigers around here do you?
Homer: I’d like to buy your rock.
personally, I’m divided about the Bush admin.
theres alot of dirt and alot of questions out there…not unlike Clintons admin.
but heres some food for thought about9-11-01 that makes me wonder.
personally I dont think I’m in any more or less danger over all(given my location,lifestyle and plain old odds),but theres alot more talk about saftey than action,and then theres that whole war bit.
guess I’ll just keep pondering all this till november,and keep wishing there was a strong third party or at least two honest ones I could trust.
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How has he affected your life in a bad way? No WMD hysterics, no slaughtering of babies rhetoric. YOU. How is YOUR life worse today than before Jan 2001?
We’re not rich, but we paid less in taxes than we did 3 years ago as a percentage. We’re flying cross-country soon, and we feel safer now than we did 2 years ago. We means my wife and I.
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Sorry, but I find this asinine. As though the only way to judge a President is how one’s own particular life is going? As though judging him on waging a war (done in the name of the Amreican people) for reasons one does not find ligitmate…which, like all wars will result in the death of babies…somehow that’s not a legitimate reason for critisizing him as long as he hasn’t fucked with you personally?
I could go on to mention the many way I deepy fear his policies will effect me and mine in the furture, but I think it’s enough to say whether or not he happens to have pissed in my particular bowl of cheerios is not the only standard by which I would judge the leader of our democracy.
Flight 587, Queens, November 12, 2001. An accident, as far as anyone knows.
Then there was the crash that killed Senator Wellstone October 25, 2002.
And myriad small cargo planes and single engine planes.
Planes crash, because of weather, pilot error, other reasons outside the control of anyone not on the plane. I’m not sure how Bush’s adminstration makes flying safer.
When I began college, during the late Clinton era, my hometown had one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country.
By the time I graduated, it was difficult to even get temp work – and I had experience as a temp and a good record. I was a college graduate (Phi Beta Kappa at that!), and I couldn’t even get work taking tickets at the movie theater.
Unlike many of my friends, I did manage to find a respectable and decent-paying job…overseas. Luckily that’s what I wanted to do anyway. I may also be one of the few people who said she’d leave the country if Bush was elected and then really did it!
Living and travelling overseas has also made me realize how reviled Bush is abroad. If nothing else, the man has hurt the international reputation of the US. Even people from countries that have long been pretty chummy with the US (Canada, England, Germany, Japan, Australia) seem to think he’s a dangerous idiot.
I’d say Bush is easily the worst US president since Richard Nixon, but Hitler? No. If you’ll excuse the pun, George W. is bush league compared to Adolf.
Could you explain the Electoral College to me, please? I find it interesting that this was perhaps the most tossed-about phrase following the ‘election’, but very few (American) people could explain exactly what role the College plays in any given election.
Thanks,
Kermujin
Sorry to lose you Lamia, but you’re the first to give how the Admin affected you. Kudos.
But before we lose you (you did renounce your citizenship?) keep in mind, even if Bush served 3 terms, there is no chance he will bring the Republic to an end. And the 3 terms is a real threat to all, since this one isn’t valid, right? One person can be elected twice, and since he wasn’t really elected…but I digress. If you really suffered under the Bush admin, I can understand the ire, I lost my business under the Clinton years, thanks to tax laws and regulations. Do I blame him? No!
Prez gets the bully pulpit, but Congress still makes and enacts the laws. Check the Dems that voted for use of force. You may be surprised
