So I don't masturbate--does that make me a freak?!

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with you, Ruff, and I’m with you on the psychic orgasm thing as well. However, I am exempt from the “Two to Tango” category as I do occassionally enjoy some self-lovin’, and have since I was 13.

It’s hilarious to me that people get so bent about masturbation. To me it’s natural. In high school I was always up front about it, even when someone said, “Girls just don’t have to do that!” I even taught a friend how to (words only, no demo ;)) last year, because she really needed a goddamn orgasm.

Now all of my friends are honest about it. We go to the Adult store together. And all of them (except for the one who already owns it) are getting the Magic Silver Bullets for their birthday/christmas gift.

I agree with Byz - it’s relaxing, it energized you, it relieves stress…nothing like falling asleep after a righteous orgasm.

I also meant to add that for those of us who haven’t had a co-pilot in (sob) eight months, sometimes it’s either the hand or pent-up sexual frustration. And that’s just not worth it!

Ewwwww! This is supposed to be about masturbating yourself.

(I’m about to hijack my own thread for a moment here)

Yesterday I went for a walk and came upon a horse show in a nearby equestrian park. I sat to watch the goings-on but kept getting distracted (breed shows aren’t exactly riveting action and excitement) by loud and high-pitched whinnying.

Behind the arena, on private land, was a small stable of miniature horses (they’re about German Shepherd size, perhaps a little shorter). A small herd of what I presume to be mares were meandering about freely in their pasture, frustrating the hell out of a very aroused ministallion confined in a pipe corral. He was doing the stud thing, whinnying, flirting, swishing his tail, arching his neck, trotting beside the mares for as long as he could on his side of the fence. One mare did seem to be in heat (she backed her butt up to his fence), and ponyboy was aggravated as could be trying to mount her–he kept getting tangled up in the pipes, his aching erection going unattended. I watched him for a good half hour…during which he had a continuous erection and attempted to mount two separate mares at least 4 times by my count. I actually was concerned he would injure himself tangling his legs up in the corral.

I returned my attention to the show, and when he was over, glanced back at the frustrated stud. He was again whinnying, snorting, swishing his tail, successfully seducing a dun mare–and again helpless to finish the deed. After another tangled attempt to mount, he started pacing and noisily pawing the ground, obviously frustrated as hell. I felt really, really bad for the guy. Too bad horses can’t beat themself off.

And no, I’m not saying anyone should beat him off either. As the Llama said…eeewwwwwwwwwww. But, just thought I’d throw in the random story of sexual frustration.

(end my hijack…back to telling me I’m not a freak, hee hee)

Hey you people got it the wrong way around.The problem with guys like me is how to stop the damn habit.

Having just checked you out on the People Pages Ruff, I have no problewm believing this. But if you ever do feel a little frustrated and SO is not available, feel free to give 'ol Lizard a call, okay? :smiley:
p.s.- A normal lizard’s tongue is usually about 1/10 it’s body length. I’m 6’4". You do the math. :wink:

Ruffian: imagine if you had been a guy instead.do you suppose you would have been in the same situation? or would you have have had some interesting and unusual features? :o

sunbear–if I had been a guy, I’m thinking I would have been in the regular, regularly masturbating crowd. The only thing I can think might translate over into the other gender is I probably would be a premature ejaculator, as it certainly doesn’t take much for me.

Not that I am at all complaining about that!

True story: Last night I dreamed that Superman himself (the pre-injured Christopher Reeve version) was trying to seduce me. Although I did notice he had really pretty eyes, he was of no interest to me. At one point, he’d managed to get close enough to me to begin macking on my neck (Super-hicky-making, perhaps), and I forcefully pushed him away. “You could never be the number one man in my life,” I told him. “He (referring to the Llama) is who I love, and you are no match for him.” And that was freakin’ Superman, Liz.

I’m flattered by your flirting, but dude…tongue length? Ehhh. It’s more important to note that the male member of most reptiles (including lizards) isn’t visible to the naked eye.

:wink:

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*Originally posted by Lizard *
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Yes, but you’re still a lizard and no match for a hoof, especially a hoof of death.
(Being the DeathLlama, I of course have the option of adding the phrase “of death” to the names of all body parts. It gets interesting the further up you go, but lets just stick with hoof of death for now, shall we?)

Ruff: there’s def. nothing abnormal in not being interested in it. I had a girlfriend who just wasn’t it too it. She didn’t find it interesting or satisfying although she made an effort for me a few times. And she was incredibly sexual and passionate. Different strokes for different folks. Hmm what an unfortunate term…
still waiting for the Showerhead Loving Thread

Okay, I think I need to bring this up before I go crazy…

I’m sorry, but isn’t this the person who made a huge deal - even got Cecil to notice her - about her psychic orgasms and now she is saying that she never actually had an orgasm unless she was making love while fantasizing?!?

If it is the latter, let me tell you that having an orgasm while having sex is not something to write home about. Not a 100% gimme, no doubt, but not particularly impressive.

So what’s the deal here, Ruffian? :confused:


Yer pal,
Satan

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I’d forgotten all about that, Bri.
Nice call.
So wadda 'bout it, Ruff?

Talk about shutting down a thread…

Satan and the Chief certain put the brakes on this one!

And it was such a simple question…

…and I’m not sure Cecil noticed me, anyway, as there was no reference to me anywhere.

Okay: Psychic orgasms, by Cecil’s definition, are orgasms that occur without any physical genital contact. Now, I may be slipping into the TMI category, but here we go:

[li]“Wet” dreams: I’ve had the female equivalent of these since I was about 15. Oftentimes I do touch myself in these dreams, but just about an equal share of time, no contact is made at all. The contractions of the orgasms oftentimes wake me up–they are deliciously intense.[/li]
[li]Oftentimes, just kissing–or even a kiss–will set me off. For example: the Llama and I were driving to a friend’s wedding (out of state). During the drive, I became aroused just being around him; this without either of us making physical contact in the car. When we got to the hotel, he kissed me–and BLAMMO!–ecstasy! …With no genital contact. This is the most typical cause of my “psychic” orgasms: a kiss, a really good kiss, is sometimes all I need.[/li]
[li]Fantasies: these are just a supplement. I like to use my imagination to enhance experience, but they are never enough in and of themselves. As a teen, I would fantasize and become extremely aroused, and perhaps would reach orgasm…but that was rare enough that I do not remember it. I do not consider this fantasizing a part of my psychic orgasm experience, just a really juicey enhancement.[/li]
Are we all clear now?

And I must say, I don’t usually mind sharing this stuff, but I am a little uncomfortable spilling all this in here. I shared some of what was in my survey sent to Cecil, but not all…somethings have to remain private. :o

Well, I don’t want to start shit here, but I saw the same thing happen to a guy in American Pie

To me, a “psychic orgasm” is exactly that - I am thinking about me having an org…AAAAAAAHHHH!

I was once performing cunnilingus on a girl - an act I do so love - and I came. I wrote it off as me grinding into the bed sheet sunconsciously, but I have as much evidence here as a “psychic orgasm” as you do I think.

I can state for sure that if that’s really a psychic orgasm, I WANT NO PART OF THEM! I don’t think I need to spell out that when I am with the person, I kinda want to have my orgasm with her help, you know?

IN MY OPINION…

Wet dreams do not count here, and to me, neither does what you are doing because it ain’t no different than premature ejaculation. And since many women can masturbate without directly touching their clitoris - all it takes for some women is squeezing their legs together, and I know about women who masturbated in their classes in HS by silently rocking themselves back and forth, without using their hands at all.

Again, not wanting to start shit, but these two concepts are VERY DIFFERENT to me, and I am not quite as in awe with this “talent” as I was…


Yer pal,
Satan

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sigh I was going by Cecil’s definition, not yours. Wet dreams were enough for him and were mentioned in his column. The “premature ejaculation” form was mentioned in his column as well. You asked, I answered. If you disagree, debate him, not me.

Well gee. Thank you for taking a thread that was created to help me feel a little better about myself and turning it into further embarrassment.

I think I’ll shy away from sharing these kinds of things in the future; it’s just too personal and it’s too difficult not to take reactions personally.

Ruffian

Sorry you’ve had your feelings hurt. This is the first of heard of your psychic orgasms (other than your sig which, quite frankly, always puzzled the hell out of me, but makes sense now) and I’m still in awe. I gotten close to an orgasm without physical contact of any kind but needed something to put me over the top.
With all of that said, I have to agree with (I can’t believe I’m saying this) Freak. For me masturbation is less a pleasure and more a requirement. It’s just something I have to do from time to time. And speaking of which, dear god is it 12:30 already? Ummm…talk to you after, I mean, later…

grem

Ruffian, I’m sorry. I did not mean to embarass you and I am not calling you a liar. I am simply saying that I thought it was something else, tht’s all.

I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to hurt you, really…


Yer pal,
Satan

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Ruffian: I’m glad you came up with the speculation yourself. That would probably fit.