So I saw two guys holding hands at Costco today...

Are you sure they weren’t merely exchanging long protein strings?

It shows how much society has changed.

Then don’t hold anyone’s hand. You’ll be okay.

oh. nm.

The American Psychiatric Association up until 1973 said it was a disorder. While I have nothing against gay folks, one can’t deny that there’s a big numbers game going on in this construct we call society.

You do know how long ago 1973 was, and how long it would take for psychiatric research to be reflected in policy? This is progress–out of the dark ages.

My apologies, Novelty Bobble. I read you wrong.

Not a problem, mea culpa as I should have been clearer.

Of slightly more interest is Dibbs comment, what’s all that about?

Alien abduction.

And don’t think we aren’t all profoundly grateful for that.

I can attest to the childhood programming thing that HeXen talks about. Occasionally my spouse will reach for my hand in public, and it still makes me so uncomfortable. I just can’t hold on for very long. And we live in San Francisco.

I was wondering about the gay couple setting up housekeeping.

I see nothing creepy about love , I only wish one of daughter best friend that was gay lived to see this happen . He pass away at the age of 38 from a blood clot in his lung.

I saw a Gallup survey that tracked approval and disapproval of whether gay marriage should be recognized legally.

In 1996, 27% approved and 68% disapproved.

In 2015, 60% approved and 37% disapproved.

That is a remarkable change in just 20 years.

If someone stopped me and said something similar, I’d find it more condescending than creepy…but yes, I’d prefer they not say anything to me.

Just what it is, a friendly observation about how numbers influence the construct we live within and continually shape via emotion and debate and, sometimes, protestation. Kinda the American way, that.:slight_smile:

Ooh, you mean like the Matrix! Lots of numbers, shaping the construct we live within! Heh heh, by golly you’re on to something! Numbers! Emotion! Debate! American way! Smiley face! You are the Double Stuf of smart cookies, Dibbsy old boy! Keep on truckin’!

Yeah, or else it’s a completely meaningless string of words. Or is that what you meant?

Thank goodness the psychiatrists have been freed up somewhat; now they can concentrate on narcissistic delusional types.

Holding hands at Costco? Why wasn’t one of them pushing the big ass cart and the other one heaving boxes into it? How the heck did they do it?

And yes, I wouldn’t have said anything either. I would have thought “good on you, now get out of my way!”

I’m not a happy camper at big box stores, sorry.

I was never all that comfortable with it myself and have no idea why, just as kissing my wife in public…etc. Perhaps it’s that subconscious awareness of that “get a room you two” attitude from others out in public that I picked up on and prefer to not draw potentially negative attention to myself despite knowing it’s no big deal nor should I care.