So, this is what it looks like before the war.

I am so damn sick of this "both sides’ horse shit. AS for being castigated for being themselves… maybe they should look in the mirror and then shut the fuck up.

What hate crimes were these people accused of, simply by being themselves?

Ah, yes, the plaintive retort of the guy left holding an empty sack. If you can’t dazzle ‘em with brilliance or baffle ‘em with bullshit (no matter how hard and how many times you try in the latter case) and are left with nuthin’ to counter the fact you got your ass handed to you, then drag out good ol’ Joe Paterno from five or six years ago.

Hasn’t worked yet, but a guy has to try to find some way to save face, huh?

My guess would be opposing or at least not wholly on board with liberal proposals and liberal-think.

Any opposition to the liberal position at all, no matter whether it be a question of efficacy or a belief that it causes more problems than it solves (or is silly, overblown and dictatorial, as in much of political correctness) or whatever, is invariably met with accusations of hate, racism, sexism, evil, selfishness, a desire to see suffering, etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum.

This has been the case for some 50 years now and people have finally gotten fed up with it. Hence Donald Trump.

So, you’ve had you Come to The Donald moment? Repented your sins, your apostasy?

As they’ve just demonstrated, they were accused of “of perpetrating or advocating H-crimes”, because that’s exactly what they want. They want* everyone* who isn’t exactly like them to be persecuted, driven out of the nation or killed. And then for us to wage genocidal war on people outside of our nation.

There’s over a billion Muslims; if we kill all of them in the war against Islam the Right wants the history of genocide will relegate Hitler and Genghis Khan to footnotes next to America. And those aren’t the only people they want to kill.

Der? A cuppa chamomile tea. Some P.G. Wodehouse. Practice some mental hygiene, take care of yourself.

You are projecting. You are the most hateful crazy person I have been exposed to.

That’s right. Because a guy who complains on a message board is* just* as awful as one who lies his way into the Presidency and surrounds himself with Neo-Nazis. I’m just so much more awful than all the neo-fascists, serial killers, fanatics and tyrants there are in the world because I’m not properly deferential to the Republicans.

It’s pretty much reached the point where the Right could outright round people up into death camps, and people would just say “Well, at least they aren’t liberals. Those guys are just so impolite, you know?”

Their nature is to be bigoted assholes. That is how they are. It is almost like sexual preference: they cannot help it. They cannot understand what bigotry is, because it is so deeply woven into their being. It may be extricable, I am uncertain. And the evidence is that they keep coming up with Allan Bakke false equivalencies that illustrate how fully incapable they are of grasping the issue.

Perhaps it is not their fault, because they cannot help it. You cannot blame the sidewinder that delivered the fatal bite to your brother, but that does not mean you have to forgive it. Asshole bigotry is a problem that we absolutely must find a solution to.

I have these conversations with people where it becomes so clear, it seems to me, that bigotry is so thoroughly ingrown into their very way of being, that they can’t actually understand much less believe that anyone really thinks its possible not to be a bigot. At best it feels like wordplay to them.

You realize of course that a real anti-Semite would rain fury on an Israeli stooge for appropriating a strong Norse name like Fenris.

I’m not an anti-Semite, which I tried to explain before the Likudnik social media propaganda office got hold of me. I am socially awkward and ignorant, yes.

I am impressed that the Likud propaganda office still has my name flagged. Shuffle off, Likudnik. Don’t you have some impressionable young minds to fill with Bibi’s cult of personality and anti-Arab drivel?

Sons of Israel, vote Labor before it’s all too late!

This tread is filled with such myopia, projection and self righteousness. And the fucking hypocrisy is off the charts. Dismiss anybody who disagrees with you as a neo- Nazi, but then accuse them of being the one with blinders on.

The bullshit in this thread is just a microcosm. Here as in the larger culture most sensible people who oppose you have been demonized and have consequently taken one of two courses. They’ve either stop engaging so they can lead a quite life without the insanity and hate of the left or they’ve responded with a big “Fuck You” because you’ve made civil discourse impossible. Count me in the later group.

So, then, you commit yourself to emulating the civility, decorum and tact of The Donald?

In other words, you’re a dishonest Neo-nazi. You want everyone who isn’t like you to be deported, persecuted or killed; you just don’t want to admit it.

People voted to put sadistic bigots into power; therefore, they want sadistic bigots in power. You and those like you just want to rape and torture and kill with the protection of the government for your brutality; so you voted in the kind of people who support that.

As for “civil discourse”, the Right knows nothing but hatred. You’re just projecting your own evil onto your opponents. You hate and insult everyone who isn’t exactly like you, therefore that’s what your opponents do.

In reality, much of the middle & left’s error was in being too polite and respectful to their opponents. They were unwilling to admit even to themselves that the right stands for* nothing* but stupidity and evil, and paid the price by being surprised when the right voted in stupid, evil people.

Heh. You want to talk of projection?

As I might never stop delighting in noting – er, because it still pains me so – this very thread included someone who kicked off a long tirade with the following:

Does he spend a single sentence asking whether I’m a Trump voter? Why, of course not; ignorant he was and ignorant he remained, because he was too stupid to easily remedy it. But what does he accuse me of? Why, ignorance and stupidity, of course.

And so I ask you: what hope is there of reaching out to Trump voters, if folks like septimus are stupidly hurling ignorant accusations of stupidity and ignorance at fine upstanding people who aren’t actually Trump voters? Good heavens, how much worse must they be at engaging with actual Trump voters?

Oh, it gives a bloke pause, it does.

It’s neither possible nor desirable to “reach out” to them. They are both irrational and malignant.

If I wanted to make them happy I already know what to do; buy a gun, kill as many brown people as I can, then shoot myself. I’d rather not.

The liberal that cried wolf.

What an insane crock of shit. You’re imputing motivations to your opponents without any proof. This is just what I’ve come to expect from the unthinking, totalitarian left

The opponents of the right hate and insult, but it’s really the right’s fault? You’re a moron. There’s nothing you can’t justify with such pseudo-logic.

Being too nice? That’s hilarious. Acting like a fucking toddler throwing a temper tantrum will only further discredit people like you and the shitty worldwiew you hold.

Totally be fair, that is kind of the OP’S schtik.