So when would you say is it really "winter"?

In My Humble Opinion
61

I cant imagine what its like to live in a place with really no “winter”. Or where winter is a low of maybe 50 degrees.

62

It ain’t bad, I’ll clue ya.

63

I’ll go with December 1 to April 1 – that’s when we’re allowed to feed the birds because the bears have gone to sleep, and that equals winter.

64

Pretty much, except that our Fall is kind of constrained, since summer really runs June, July, August and about 3/4 of September here in Dallas. July and August are the hellish months as well, with June/September being merely hot.