So yeah, my brother came out today

Wow, I’m shocked. Not that I should be, I’ve kinda suspected for years. But it was still a shock to hear him say it.

“I’m gay.”

Most of his friends, as he told me, already know. Today is his birthday (he’s a young adult in his first professional job), and he had decided it was time to tell me, Mom and Dad. I’m very glad my parents seem to be taking it OK. I’ve worried previously - IF it’s true, would they be ok with it? Would they say hurtful things? Would they try to “change” his mind? Mom is extremely Catholic; Dad (as he gets older) is kinda gravitating towards elements of an Archie Bunker personality. As it turns out (and I’ve spoken with Mom, Dad and Brother tonight) the parents handled it admirably. No judgment. No anger. A few awkward comments (but done out of love) from my mother - “Please, get tested for HIV” and “The Catholic Church doesn’t hate gays! It welcomes them!”

The HIV and Catholic parts kinda got a :rolleyes: from me and no doubt from my brother. I did tell him three things:

1) Ah, that’s cool. I kinda suspected for years. Doesn’t change a thing between us.

Now cue some GameHat tears:

2) “I am so, so sorry about how I used to tease you. It was cruel; you must have felt terrible. I’ve felt terrible about it for years (since I thought you might be actually gay). Nothing can excuse it. I’m just so sorry.”

Like I said, I kinda always knew. And when we were kids, I was merciless and cruel. Lots of epithets thrown. “Fag”. “Homo”. “Queer”. I remember one time he was working on grammar for English I jumped in - “Here’s a compound sentence for you - ‘[GameHat’s brother] wore his black pumps and carried a smart black purse.’”

I still hate myself for this.

When I told him this tonight, he shrugged it off. “It’s cool, I’ve heard it all.” I still worry. As an adult - he’s my brother. I love him. I just want him to be happy. I hate myself for making his young life unhappy. God, I hope he really is cool with it. I remember being teased (about different stuff - appearance, clothing, interests) when I was at the age he was when I was the worst - I still remember all of that, and it was traumatizing. God, I would have hated to have me as a brother back then.

3) “Don’t give up on religion”
My brother and I were both brought up Catholic. I have plenty of my own beefs with the Catholic church. I’m sure my brother his a great big glaring one now; he didn’t want to talk about it tonight. I don’t want to debate in this thread; I’ll be happy to talk about it GD. But leave debates on religion/Catholicism out of this post, SVP. Let’s just say we’ve both been away from the Catholic church for a few years now.

I’ve gone to other churches since then. No church is perfect, as no human is perfect, and any group of humans is simply prone to corruption. But I do believe in Christianity. I’m certainly a pretty poor believer, but as bad as I am, I still believe.

I just asked him not to give up on belief. I’m sure he’s bitter on religion. I hope (and pray) he doesn’t give up on God. Not that I think his being gay is any sort of barrier to religion or salvation. I just don’t want him to think that.

Anyways, it’s late, I’m drunk and rambling. I love my brother; I’m happy he doesn’t have to hide part of himself anymore from me and the rest of our family; I hope he finds a nice guy to be with for the rest of his life. I’m still a bit shocked, but that’s my problem, not his.

//The Grandparents are going to hate this. I PRAY they will show some compassion. I’m dreading Easter. But if it comes down to it, I’ll side with my brother over them. He’s my brother, God damn it. I’m with and behind him for life.

Isn’t giving your siblings the hardest time you can think of kind of your job as a kid? I don’t know as you have to feel too badly about that.

Good on you for remembering what’s important.

My mom has four siblings, and two of them had their eldest daughters come out. One was a total surprise, one wasn’t, but just like that, I had two lesbian cousins. I thought it was awesome, because I got to refer to “my lesbian cousins!” Unfortunately, not everyone felt that way.

My mom’s brother and his wife and son were totally supportive of their daughter. They raised her to be open to new ideas, to embrace differences, to be socially conscientious, and all that feel-good stuff :slight_smile: so it was no surprise that she’s very well-adjusted. She came out into practically the perfect, most supportive environment. She married her wife in December '08 in a lovely non-legal ceremony.

My mom’s sister, on the other hand, had always been disapproving of her eldest daughter, and her coming out was just the latest in the string of silly things my aunt rejected her over. Pretty sure they’re estranged now. I would feel sorry for my cousin if she wasn’t so strong and above the crap her mother has done to her. She’s also in a long-term relationship.

I think I went beyond normal sibling meanness. I seem to have a natural (and evil) talent for turning hurt and bitterness into cruelty. I was jealous of him at the time, I think I “compensated” by being a complete devil.

If he ever does want to discuss religion, I’m sure we can help. I know I can post plenty of links to mainline Christian denominations that are gay friendly. I attended a gay megachurch when I lived in Dallas and my local Episcopal church that I attend here in Phoenix has more gays on Sunday morning than most of the gay bars on a Saturday night!

I think he’s got that covered. Seriously now, good for him.

At this point your brother is probably old enough that he’s made peace with your treatment of him as a child. I think he would have been honest with you about whether his feelings were still hurt. This is a time for him to really be open about who he is and I don’t see any way he’d hold back now.

I had an uncle (only 5 years older than me, so like an older brother) who tormented the hell out of me when I was a kid, and never apologized, but I had made peace with the way he treated me and why a long time before his death. Growing up and getting older and gaining some independence allows us a little distance from those little childhood injustices. Nevertheless, your apology still probably means a lot to him.

As for worrying about the grandparents… grandparents are the biggest pushovers on the planet. My 19-year-old SIL is a lesbian and came out to her grandmother, who watches FoxNews and rants all the time about homosexuals taking over her neighborhood. At first, she cried, and said she was really disappointed and she didn’t understand. But she recently invited my SIL’s fianceé over for Christmas break and allowed them to sleep in the same bedroom together. She positively adores the fianceé too. My SIL doesn’t make any pretense about herself and never has, and Grandma knows this and in her own weird way, she accepts it. (Just don’t let Grandma catch you smoking. That’s when the shit really hits the fan.)

We even have a Baptist church in our city that has on the front page of its website: “LGBT-affirming”. I hope, if he’s interested, he finds a place where he feels supported and welcome.

My son took so much crap from a kid in HS that liked to gay bash guys. My son is straight but didn’t date till 19. He told me recently that the kid that bashed on everyone during HS was making out with a guy at the club. Hell ,you just don’t know…? Sometimes it’s the gay bashers that are closet gays and just have not come to terms with it.