Convenient.
Oh really? Funny, I must have missed those.
But thread complaining about one cyclist or another are legion.
And why would you go to such lengths to do that? You had to stretch and stretch and stretch and most of what you came up with was cars misbehaving and avoiding cyclists who seem to have been obeying the law. Yet you kept on trying to make that point? Why?
Or it sounds like a subjective and biased observer making way too many assumptions.
I count about 15 cyclist rant threads, not including ones about Lance or the Tour, in 6½ years.
There has to be at least 15 bad driver rants in the past two years alone.
Because scr4 clearly wasn’t expceting any cites.
Because the point I’m actually trying to make keeps getting missed or conveniently forgotten. That point being motorists have been known to swerve to avoid cyclists and kill someone other than the cyclist. Remember, the post that started this didn’t say a thing about the cyclist being 100% at fault.
There are two cycling threads on the pit right now.
How many driver rants cascaded into people ranting about all drivers, saying they have no right to the road (or even certain roads), or that they are all horrible people, etc.
Because there are very few cyclist threads where that sort of thing* doesn’t* come up.
See the problem?
But why are you going to such lengths to prove that? Seriously, this doesn’t just seem to be an effort to score a ‘point’ in the pit. In context of this thread it seems you are trying to prove something about cyclists with this. I have to wonder why you would do that.
One of which is about a bunch of cyclists who stage accidents and otherwise behave like PeTA. There still are much fewer cylist rants than there are bad driver rants.
None, because that’s ridiculous. There have been rants about all SUV and/or minivan drivers and how neithe they nor their vehicles shouldn’t be on the road.
Yeah, and much of it seems to have something to do with those cyclists who want to be on the road without having to follow its rules.
Could be part of my mental disorder.
“There have been rants about all SUV and/or minivan drivers and how neithe they nor their vehicles shouldn’t be on the road” should’ve read “how neither they nor their vehicles should be on the road”, of course.
And yet, like clockwork, someone came in and started saying bikes (in general) have no right to the road. Funny how that happens, eh?
And yet it happens in a very high percentage of pit threads that discuss bicycles.
When the SUV drivers go through what a cyclist has to go through on a daily commute I would be more concerned about such comments.
So therefore you support those who say there shouldn’t be bikes on the road. Thanks. Gotcha.
Hello? Have you forgotten that I am a cyclist? I’ve told to my face to get off the road, although not in so many words. Why on Earth would I support such stupidity?
Ride on the street, or on a sidewalk if it’s legal (it is here), I don’t care. But when on the street, cyclists need to obey the rules; those who want to be treated like any other vehicle but don’t want to follow the rules give the rest of us a bad name.
Beats me, but in response to my comments, in context and not split up:
your replied:
My conclusion follows your comments.
You’re putting the empahasis on the wrong phrase. It should be on “without having to follow its rules” and not “on the road”. As I said later, those who want to be treated like any other vehicle but don’t want to follow the rules give the rest of us a bad name. As do CM riders who stage accidents and go out of their way to not share the road, for that matter.
This. If you read this thread (and others just like it) carefully you will note that what occurs is prevarication between broad brush condemnation of cyclists in general or sections of it, and condemnation of cyclists behaving irresponsibly. The OP is a classic of the genre. It goes like this (exaggerated and simplified to make my point):
A: Cyclist (or some clique of cylists) are bad
B: No it’s unfair to paint with such a broad brush, fuck off
A: Are you denying that some cyclists are bad
B: No
A: Why are you getting annoyed with me then. My point all along was merely that bad cyclists are bad
The vitriol I was referencing was in your OP. Your first post. The one before anyone had said anything to you. You’re not very bright are you?
Oh I can understand all right. You couldn’t have made it plainer that you find it irksome that people wear a certain outfit (that you could afford to buy, no less, thanks for letting us know that) but they aren’t “genuine racers” (if they were “genuine” then that’d be OK, huh?) and ride certain sorts of bikes with certain sorts of posture. Prejudice noted. Complete lack of evidence that these people are any more irresponsible, or any more lacking in situational awareness, or cause any more accidents, also noted.
The problem is that the OP assumes without evidence that a particular group of cyclists (identified by posture, bike and clothes) evidence this behaviour, which is uncited crap.
My god youreally are hard work aren’t you?
You rant and you rave,you set up strawmen,make no coherent arguments and put your fingers in your ears and go LA LA LA when faced with any sort of refutation of your non points.
I wonder …
Are you a Troll pretending to be more stupid and immature then you really are?
Or you really are as stupid and immature as you come across as?
Or you only post when drinking?
Or you have mental health issues?
Or perhaps you are actually a kid?
Or maybe a combination of one or more of the above?
I veer towards you being a kid and I hope for your sake that I’m right otherwise you have some serious emotional problems that you need to sort out.
I swear on my mums soul that the points about your character were not made to insult you but are genuine things that I have considered about you.
And why are you so hysterical?
Just how badly DO you need the attention of complete strangers in Cyber Space ?
Tell you what ,try making a lucid point about the subject and who knows you might even get an answer.
But maybe I wont waste any more of my life reading your drivel.
Watching your embarassing attempts to hold an adult conversation are like watching a monkey trying to play the piano.
What on Earth posessed you to join this forum?
Don’t get me started on Prince Charles on a bicycle - the man’s a maniac!
I’m sooooo glad that I installed a logarithmic irony meter.
You’re not going to scratch my eyes out are you?
Hows the bruised ego,are you feeling any better yet?
I’m sorry to interrupt your discussion here, but is there any chance at all of a link to the incident you said kicked off your anger in the first place?
Are you sure this isn’t confirmation bias? Because my impression is that threads about bad drivers are ten a penny.
And you are of course careful to target your righteous wrath only at those who overgeneralise, and not at those who specify that their problem is with the bad cyclists. Right? The OP specified that he was a cyclist and that his beef was a particular group of cyclists who demonstrated behaviours he considered unsafe. None of which would be apparent to anybody who merely read your replies to him.
Only if you’re sure to end it in italics.