The absolute worst ad responses are the ones that say “Please read my profile and tell me what you think.”
Lazy. And crass.
The absolute worst ad responses are the ones that say “Please read my profile and tell me what you think.”
Lazy. And crass.
Stoid? Please give examples. Not "Any answer that conveys intelligence and some wit, which covers the third thing, being able to communicate.
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“Hi, I’m Vinyl, and I read your profile. I can tell you’re really smart and funny, which is not at all the same as having a sense of humor, but we both know that. Haha! Boy, I sure am bored. I think I like Taco Bell, I mean, if you think that’s cool. I can also not like it, if that’s better. I don’t like really like long walks on the beach, but I did once shoot an Arab who tried to stab me. Long story. Anyway, I’m into doing whatever… you want to hang sometime? No trannies, please. Light felching OK. Write back soon!”
That’s three complete sentences, all of which are spelled and punctuated more or less correctly. Is 213 nearby? Is 44 within your age range? If so, I would kill for responses like that.
Instead, I tend to get “u R kul…~…`. LOL…,~~…~” from men who are old enough to be my father and/or live halfway across the country.
In other words, it could be much, much, much worse.
lol. So, a/s/l/pic?
American Sign Language pictograph? :: shrug ::
PS I’m looking for a guy with the exact hair style of the hottie in the link. That’s not a problem 4 U???
Perhaps its the romantic in me, I think that she deserves to find her equal in every way.
The trouble is, with the amount of smoke she expects blown up her ass, the only leaves The Rocketeer…
Sir, in my heart, I know I’m funny.
The only question I’ve got for you is if we’re not worth being funny, why the fuck would you want to be a member? Shouldn’t you hang out with people you like?
You have to realize, OP, that men, on average, send out many, many more initial- contact emails than women. Most of them, I’ve been told, go unanswered, especially if the girl he emails is hot. Those women are often so bombarded with emails that they can’t get back to every one. So the long-timers have learned to make that initial-contact email short and to the point. So I gotta give them that.
The rest of your rants I can mildly agree with, and add my own. Many, many more of my own. I’m on a burn-out from online dating right now- maybe I’ll get back to it some day, but it’s hard.
So, um, how you doing?
Quite well, though I am terribly lonely… bats eyelashes
I should warn you though: I don’t dance, I don’t play games, and I’m nice, so I guess I should better kill myself while you go have sex with a Hell’s Angel.
I’m not bitter, either. It’s one of my best qualities.
Nah, I totally agree with Jodi. I have some sympathy for being awash in poorly-spelled, ungrammatical, thinly veiled requests for sex after posting a personals, but insulting what appears to be perfectly courteous, reasonably intelligent men because their initial email to you is not sufficiently thrilling? Sheesh! Considering that the response rates even to men’s well crafted emails is probably less than 1 in 20 I can’t blame them for not writing a lengthy missive for an initial contact. If they did they’d spend all their time writing rather than cultivating the interesting traits she wants.
I spent a good deal of time over a period of many months crafting and sending out messages that avoided all of the admittedly tired clichés that the o.p. objects to on three popular on-line dating services. I had several of these, at least in the early stages, critiqued by friends who offered unvarnished criticism of that and the profile that I pushed. I also have most of the traits that should look pretty appealing on paper: I don’t smoke or gave substance abuse problems, haven’t been to prison, don’t have dependents, am gainfully employed, have all of my hair, enjoy a wide variety of music and culture, can and do cook, am loved by children and animals, et cetera ad nauseum. I daresay that my spelling and punctuation are at least above the average, and the above mentioned critiques found the content to be at least tolerably amusing and lacking in any red flags or indications of psycho-stalker tendencies. One would think I’d have gotten at least get a modicum of responses from all of the women out there who cry in their Cosmopolitan cocktails about there being “no good men left”, and yet, the response rate was less than 2%. (Actual dates, or at least ones that bothered to show up, were actually an embarrassingly small fraction of those.)
Now, I’ll readily admit that I’ve got a fair amount of flaws, and not just a little baggage although I’d like to think that I mostly manage to keep it on my own cart. I could understand meeting and not being to someone’s taste–in fact, I pretty well expect it, given my propensity to suddenly break into passionate discourse about the benefits of public key encryption and why the life cycle of the fig wasp is so interesting–but not even receiving more than a couple percent response of tepid interest suggests that either these women are actually being flooded with messages from George Clooney’s younger and more attractive brother or that these women are being incredibly picky and flake away anyone who violates some unknown rule. So I can definitely understand why many guys go for the shotgun approach and just send a one line message saying, “boared. ur sexi. call me.”, insofar as it will probably result in an equal number of responses without the tedious effort of trying to find something personal to say. Near the end of my Internet dating travails I pretty much gave up and sent out a (well-written) two or three paragraph form message where I basically plugged in a couple of facts from the recipients profile, and that worked as well as anything.
All that being said, save for the “fine dining” objection, I pretty much agree with the criticisms listed by the o.p. When I read through a profile I’d stop at the third patent bromide unless there was some other compelling reason to remain interested (and no, holding up a copy of Pretty Woman while dressed like a streetwalker isn’t going to do it). But as I’ve been told many times, on-line dating is a “numbers game” and the strategy for success is blasting out as many messages as possible until you get some kind of response, and then use all your best “playa” moves on her until you “neg” her into acquiescing. Or whatever.
I’m going to go pour myself a drink.
Stranger
Oh man. After reading the OP I was really hoping you guys were going to subsequently rip her a new ass. Other than Jodi, no one is really picking up the slack. I mean the entire rant, that color is REALLY not good on you. No matter how adorable you find yourself, this is one of those things that needs to just not not be broadcast. I think just as you say funny is as funny does, so is confidence. While reading the OP talk about how clever she finds herself I caught myself a face like I had something sour in my mouth.
I also think that if someone spends time concocting some wittysexycool response you’re going to be able to smell it a mile away. I’d rather someone just be normal than try to impress me with his offbeat non sequiturs and zany references.
And by the way, why is it so wrong to want to be entertained? I love entertaining people. The OP’s antics have not amused me one bit.
So if the OP can entertain herself for 5 lifetimes (which actually sounds to me like some form of autism) I think she should just have these guys fax her their last years tax returns and buy a vibrator in the meantime.
I’m going to go pour myself a drink.
Stranger
I just poured myself a glass of wine. Here is ANOTHER toast TO THE END OF IRONY!!! (and the internet smilies that show up in my nightmares)
That’s three complete sentences, all of which are spelled and punctuated more or less correctly. Is 213 nearby? Is 44 within your age range? If so, I would kill for responses like that.
Instead, I tend to get “u R kul…~…`. LOL…,~~…~” from men who are old enough to be my father and/or live halfway across the country.
In other words, it could be much, much, much worse.
Oh, I know all about it, but those get deleted from both my email AND my brain in about the same amount of time.
And as far as examples, the following are all real:
Subject: New in town
I just moved here last week, arrived on Thursday. I drove 1900 miles from New Orleans to Los Angeles with my gear and my motorcycle in my pickup truck and a trailer. Everything’s in storage now until I find my own apartment. Fortunately, I’m staying with good friends who like good food and good wine. L.A. is a fresh start for me: a new city, a new job, leaving behind a soon-to-be-finalized divorce and a broken city. For obvious reasons, I’m not looking to settle down or get heavily involved with someone. I’m enjoying my independence these days, but I do get lonely. I want to learn more about L.A., explore it as much as I can. Yesterday some friends and I rode our motorcycles up the Angeles Crest Highway and then on to Willow Springs to watch vintage motorcycle races. I have enjoyed trading in oyster po-boys for tacos and sampling the wide range of ethnic food here. I have diverse tastes in just about everything. And I’m multi-faceted: intellectual (I start a postdoctoral fellowship at **** this week), bohemian (I enjoy art, music, food, creativity), entrepreneur (I have my own consulting business), blue collar (I have tools and know how to use them and I don’t mind getting my hands dirty), Virgo (I’m organized, pay my bills on time, and appreciate good spelling), and rebel (I have a motorcycle, a few tattoos, and usually wear jeans and boots). I’m an acquired taste, you might say. As requested, I have attached a photo, which was taken last summer during a motorcycle trip to the Smoky Mountains. Life size, I’m 6’2", 200 pounds.
Here’s another…shorter, a little sloppy, but smart and different enough that he got my attention in spite of a picture that was kinda goofy. The clincher was the use of the word “polyglot”, and yes, he turned out to be a hit. Extra yummy on all fronts.
I’m pretty sure you’ve found what you were looking for. And im hoping you are what I was looking for.
, asian(with a twist, ask and i’ll tell), 6’4 tall, slim, fit and athletic.
-social, edgy, creative, imaginative, polyglot, smart and stable in all areas.
i’ll let the picture describe the rest of me.
And i’ll let our future conversations give you an idea of how i am.
tell me a little bit about yourself…if any interest arises, I will share some more about me and we’ll exchange names/phone numbersHope to hear form you.
ciao.
Met this guy, too…wasn’t that big a hit, but I sure loved his response (this is only the seoncd half, the first was telling me more about himself, and I know this was his standard pre-written spiel because he answered a couple of my ads not realizing they were all me. This was Craigslist. All three were, actually.)
Picture the scene if you will. Me, a pair of ice-skates and a few pretty ladies gliding effortlessly around waiting to be impressed. (OK I made up the last bit) But I mean to say I can ski, (After a fashion!) and skiing is easier if the ski is shorter. Ergo skating (effectively skiing with incredibly short skis should be easy! Right?
Was it *%£$!
As I recall (And I admit my memory is hazy for some period of that afternoon!) my legs got a little over-excited to be confronted with so much slipperiness. As soon as I stepped onto the ice they decided they wanted to visit every corner of the rink at once, from lots of different directions. They went this way and that, scissoring and splaying, sometimes getting as much as 12 feet apart, but constantly gathering momentum, until at last they flew out from under me and I landed on my butt with such a wallop that my coccyx hit the roof of my mouth and I had to push my oesophagus back in with my fingers. “Wow!” said my startled butt as I clambered heavily back to my feet. “That ice is hard.” “Hey, let me see,” cried my head and instantly down I went again. And so it went for the next 30 minutes, with various extremities of my body - shoulders, chin, nose, one or two of the more adventurous internal organs - hurling themselves at the ice in the spirit of investigation. From a distance I suppose I must have looked like someone being worked over by an invisible gladiator. Eventually, when I had nothing left to bruise, I crawled off the ice and asked to be covered with a blanket. And that was it for my attempt at ice-skating.
I have also tried sledging, which I don’t even want to talk about, except to say that the man was very understanding about his dog, all things considered, and that the lady across the road would have saved us all a lot of trouble if she had just left her garage door open.
All of which should go to show that although I may not be a natural sportsman, I can at least sacrifice my humility in an attempt? Well in an attempt to break the ice (geddit). I am hoping you will feel sorry for me and be willing to assuage my humiliation by getting to know a genuine guy who would very much like to hear more from you?
Let me know if it worked,
Now I figure I should post the ad they were responding to. Which actually went through a few incarnations. I’m posting the last version, which is way more sarcastic and challenging in response to the avalanche of responses I’d gotten and the crappy experiences I’d had, but the main stuff is pretty much the same.
The first guy who answered that I posted above had answered my first version of this, which was mellower. We’d exchanged some email and he’d sent a number, but I had so many responses I completely spaced. Then when I posted this version, he wrote me again to remind me, so I guess it didn’t put him off…(iv’e deleted a few things just for privacy’s sake)
Title: Big Ass, Big Brain, Big Mouth, Big Love
**Ain’t Young, Ain’t Thin, Ain’t Hot. © **
(Well, maybe I’m a little bit hot in my own special way.)
I’ve been back in the market for a couple of weeks now, and its certainly been interesting. I’ve had some fun but I have been left scratching my head saying “Wha’?” more than once.
But I’m still looking. After exceptionally painful end of my 10 years with a man almost young enough to be my son, I’m very ready for some sweet connection with someone who…well, someone who isn’t…how you say?… a selfish asshole. (Think I’m talkin’ to you? Then I probably am. Go away. )
But let me rephrase that. What I am ready for is some attention, affection, pleasure, fun, sweetness and some incredible sex. Having confirmed that my sex life is far from over, I now seek assurances that my GOOD sex life is not over. I admit it…I’m particular. I’m not especially easy to satisfy. It appears that the standards for what makes good sex have fallen miserably while I was locked up in long term committed relationship and most people seem to think that simply being naked and touching the fun bits, in any old way, is fabulous. I beg to differ. (In my defense, though, I give as good and usually way better than I get.) Finesse, attention to detail… I’m in it for the whole experience. Orgasms are all well and good, but mostly they are just nature’s way of keeping your head from exploding.
I’m not looking to fall in love and get married, but I’m also not looking for a one night stand. ( I’m especially not looking for a one night stand which comes billed as something else, and yes, I’m talking to you again, and you too, and you over there, you fucking shmuck. Hie thee to a therapists office already and deal with how much you hate your mommy and stop taking it out on me.) While I’m enjoying the sampler platter right now, I am definitely looking for a lover, someone to fuck and cuddle and hang with and talk to about something just a teensy bit stimulating. I originally thought I could go for mindless sex with mindless people but turns out…not so much. So I’m looking for mindful sex with mindful people. And some real sweetness and affection. I need a little tenderness, not just rutting around.
What will get my attention first, because I’m cheap and superficial after all: young, pretty, tall and articulate. (Asian is really good, too.) But that doesn’t mean that the rest of you are ignored, I’m just sayin’…
Bright, interesting and interested, self-aware, funny, smart, and open hearted are all important. So is personal hygiene. Man, nothing kills it like stink or stupid and both together can make Brad Pitt into a toad.
While I am a BBW myself, I have a strong preference for slim men. Not a rigid dealbreaking fixation, just a very strong preference. Part of it is simply practical: the more flesh in the room, the harder it is to navigate. (It’s ok if you don’t find overweight women attractive. But if you find them attractive enough to fuck, you’d better not treat them differently than you’d treat any other woman because you are worried about other people judging you. If that describes you, you simply must go fuck yourself. No, really, I insist.)
I respond with pictures to every email that includes pictures and a missive, however brief, which indicates that you actually read this ad and can reasonably believe you somehow fall inside the lines of what I’m looking for. Especially the part where I’m looking for a nice person. I’m nursing enough bruises of various kinds right now, ok?
Responses that are obviously a resume you send out to half the ads on CL will be ignored. I’m special enough for you to make the effort.
And about your penis. I know it’s adorable and I’m sure I will love it as much as you do when I’m introduced. But please don’t send me pictures of it in email. They don’t get me excited, and they don’t shock me. They bore me. Unless of course yours is freakishly large or bizarrely shaped. Or wears funny hats.
Oh, and you get 20 extra points if you play poker. I need more bodies at my weekly game.
And one last thing…Since ”LOL” is code for “I’m thoroughly dull and unimaginative and insecure to boot. Please delete my email immediately.” I usually oblige.
Most of you what? In fact, there is a contingent that prefers fast food to L’Auberge Chez Francois.
Unless you were not being sarcastic, in which case I have to inform you that’s there’s a contingent that prefers L’Auberge Chez Francois to Taco Bell.
Either way, I don’t get the dismissal of this piece of info. It’s relevant to discover if a potential date likes coat-and-tie dining, or places where your flip-flops and a T-shirt is all the “dressy” needed.
My husband and I are on the opposite ends of this spectrum. It’s not a deal-breaker as long as you play nice and throw each other a bone now and then.
OK, here’s my honest, unfiltered response to that add:
Gee, it’s amazing you don’t have half the males on the planet banging your door down with that invitation. Maybe if you just spend some time being an obviously friendly, outgoing person without all the extra self-congratulatory junk you might not even have to inhabit the online world of internet dating. But as long as you’re there, don’t go out of your way to insult 90% of your audience. You’re going to get a lot of junk replies no matter what you write. Ignore them. That add might even attract more than you’d get otherwise. Trolls are out there all over the place, and that add says: Go ahead, push my buttons (and not in a good way).
Take that for what it’s worth. I’m not trying to be mean, even if this is the Pit.
In the Op’s defense, note that she’s dating in Los Angeles, an experience only slightly more pleasant than hiking in New Guinea with a runny eye infection.
For some reason this thread reminded me of an earlier discussion today over in Cafe Society. Anyone want to guess the thread I’m talking about?
This thread is making me angry in so many ways that I can’t even express them all without boiling down into a VC03 meltdown of infurious rage.
Oh, what the hell. I’ll reveal the tip of my iceburg. To Stoid, For starters, while I’m sure in person you are sweet and kind and an all around swell person, from your OP and your personal ads you sound like a smug, selfish, hollow shell of a woman whose standards are so high that April 20th is your favorite day of the year. You want somebody who doesn’t describe themselves as funny, yet you describe yourself thusly. Oh yes, it’s not an internet dating site, but doesn’t that go against your notion of letting funny speak for itself . Sadly, this is merely the start of your bitchy douchitude.
Let’s take a second and peek at some quotes from your advertisement:
But I’m still looking. After exceptionally painful end of my 10 years with a man almost young enough to be my son, I’m very ready for some sweet connection with someone who…well, someone who isn’t…how you say?… a selfish asshole. (Think I’m talkin’ to you? Then I probably am. Go away. )
What the fuck? You talk all about what the man will give to you with nary a word of how you plan on contributing to the relationship. Who is the selfish one again? Well, it doesn’t really matter because I’m pretty sure it’s obvious what you’re looking for:
What I am ready for is some attention, affection, pleasure, fun, sweetness and some incredible sex. Having confirmed that my sex life is far from over, I now seek assurances that my GOOD sex life is not over.
Yeah, so, tell me again why a man should extoll his time to write a heartfelt missive to you when it’s obvious to a rational reader that you’re only in this for yourself. Obviously the biker/rebel/virgos/hotties/??? are going to message you; they are perfectly happy to fuck your brains out and then fade into the sunset. Hey, maybe I’m offbase, but I dont think I’m crazy in getting that vibe from your posts.
So wait, can you explain how the hypothetical replies to your ad were so atrociously bad that you decided to dismiss them out of hand? Is it because you’re so full of yourself that you make the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man look like Starvin Marvin? What stops you from receiving these benign compliments, at their surface a simple acknowledgment of liking your profile, reading the senders profile, and then deciding whether or not to pursue contact? Why exactly do they have to sweep you off their feet from the initial message? Clearly they are not as funny as you.
Here’s another tidbit from your advertisement, a gem of hateful psychosis:
I’m especially not looking for a one night stand which comes billed as something else, and yes, I’m talking to you again, and you too, and you over there, you fucking shmuck. Hie thee to a therapists office already and deal with how much you hate your mommy and stop taking it out on me.)
Who in blue blazes are you talking to? Are you talking to the guy who was almost old enough to be your son? For that matter, why the fuck do you include that kind of baggage in your profile? I dont think it’s some hypothetical reader who needs to ‘hie himself to a therapist.’ You dont come off as witty, self-confident, or sexy in this ad. You come off as a middle-aged, baggage-laden, arrogant behemoth, whose only goal in life is to get laid long enough so she can forget the trail of tears that characterize her pathetic life.
I could go on, but I think I’ll end here. For the record Stoid, I sincerely hope what I wrote above was wrong.