It’s hard for me to believe there could be more bad news to flood the zone than we’ve already got. I mean, kids in cages taking care of babies in cages while other kids and babies in the cages die without even seeing a doctor. Impeachment? We need fucking Nuremberg trials for Trump and his minions.
Oh, and we almost got in a war with Iran, but apparently Trump saved us just in time from the war that Trump was about to start. It’s fucking nuts that we go to war, or not, depending on the firing of random synapses in this geezer’s brain.
There were several times during his testimony when I wondered if he was declining to answer because of another ongoing investigation. I can’t remember details, but I’m wondering what shoes remain to drop.
Or, even if it’s not what they want, they’ve realized that it’s what’s wanted (or at least tolerated) by enough of their voters, and thus, they believe that speaking out against Trump will end their political careers.
If you honestly believe the democrats aren’t motivated by political power I’m not sure where you’ve lived the past 100 years or so. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
What does “could have made a big deal about the Mueller report” even mean? You mean impeach right off the bat? I mean they could have, but there’s no evidence that would have worked. I’m living in an evidence-based world, here: there is no evidence that shouting on the rooftops about Mueller and impeaching him the day after would have accomplished anything. You seem to have this hunch - that’s really what it is and nothing more - that impeachment over the Mueller report would have been successful, but there’s simply no evidence to support it. You’re just pissed because people aren’t as outraged about it as you are. I mean, I get it - I’m pissed off myself. But our shared anger doesn’t change reality.
This is hardly over; we’re nowhere near past that crisis. As long as he has John Bolton and Mike Pompeo in his back court, there’s a very good chance he’ll make a fatal miscalculation. I wish it didn’t take a disaster to persuade the idiots in this country that they’ve made a terrible mistake at the polls, but I’m afraid that’s the America we live in.
Do you often ignore the character and disposition of the person giving testimony, or is this case different?
Perhaps I should take Mueller’s disembodied words as holy emanations from upon a mount of some sort, but they have yet to be carved into immortal stone and that may take awhile.
Come on. You are pretending to be obtuse. You know as well as everyone that a trial in the Senate is required after an impeachment in the House to removed a president.
But is that what you really want? Suppose Trump is impeached and acquitted in the Senate. Do you want to read “Exonorated!” “Not Guilty!” all over his tweets and have the 2020 election be about how the Dems prosecuted a poor innocent president because they have no message or solutions for the country?
I know I don’t, not that by any means I think that* is inevitable. But if you think the Dems have no message or solutions, ISTM that you aren’t paying attention. You might not think much of them, but they’re out there.
“That” being the part about the election, not the tweets. They are inevitable.
No, just to clarify. Although I think the Dem messages and solutions are terrible, they have some. But my prior post was meant to be Trump’s mocking of them and the GOP election talking points: No solutions, Just bash Trump. Come up with something catchy. A first draft: DEM=Deny Evidence Mueller investigation. He was exonerated, yet they continue.
That’s assuming removal is the only reason for impeachment, that if the Senate won’t remove, there’s no point in the House even making the case.
Obviously there are a lot of people who feel that way. But there are plenty of people who don’t. Rather than re-litigate the issue yet one more time, I’ll just note that plenty of people have made the arguments on both sides, both here and elsewhere.
Hard to be very scared of something happening in the future when it’s a daily occurrence right now.
Depends on who you think will be more convinced by the concluding vote in the Senate than by the presentation of the case for impeachment in the Judiciary Committee, the full House, and the Senate in succession.
When Trump is found Not Guilty 85-15 in the Senate, do you think you could still say that he is full of shit when he tweets those things? You have a fairly decent case now for saying that him and his subordinates are spouting nonsense. When it is 85-15, will you have that advantage?
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