No genuine scum mistake from me. I played as I would as town. Including thinking bio was town and that hi neighbor reverse engineered my case.
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No genuine scum mistake from me. I played as I would as town. Including thinking bio was town and that hi neighbor reverse engineered my case.
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I pretty much played as town, which is my general philosophy. There were a few points where I tried to muddy the water, particularly on Day 1. On Day 2, Mahaloth was fighting pretty hard, but I stayed out of it and watched for developments. It blew over.
Stranger I thought you played a good game, but you sure talked a lot.
I hope you’ll keep playing.
Mahaloth, you saying all those times you were sure I was Town after our history was definite for me. I tried. 
I just believed your play was Town. Yes, I knew it was, but I also think I would have said the same if I was town.
Heck, I’m the moderator, and I’m still never completely sure that Biotop is Town ;).
And in case you didn’t figure it out, any method you chose for execution was going to go wrong somehow. Vinnie and Books were not what you might call competent.
And the bits about Stranger being a piano player and Prof being a crackpot inventor were both from them. I said “Hey, let me know” in the PMs, and they did. Knowed Out was a garbageman, but I didn’t get a chance to incorporate that into the color.
I agree with Biotop - my analysis of your posting showed a seriously strong defense of him. It’s always hard to know what you “would have said” if you were town, of course, but I definitely interpreted your posts as scummy. Your posts didn’t indicate a belief - they indicated perfect knowledge.
In the end it didn’t matter, of course, nobody left by that point seemed to care much for in-depth analysis. It’s true that we didn’t have much to analyze, but we weren’t completely in the dark.
Knowed Out, if you ever play Mafia again I hope you will take it just a little more seriously. It’s only a game, but it’s one that a lot of other people are playing with you. Having said that, I do hope you play again.
Biotop, I’m sorry for contributing to your lynch. I’m more sorry that I couldn’t vindicate your suspicion of Mahaloth. You were dead on.
Chronos, thanks for running it. ![]()
Next time I’m going to be a chef. At an Italian deli with a commercial meat grinder.
Stranger
Named Johnny Grubek?
Wow, Mahaloth lasted through an entire game?
Butterbeer Zone worked. Noted.
Oh, and way to go, Scum!
I don’t think they did.
Second one in a row!
Lynch the Lurker also would have worked.
I don’t know the reference but the best grill cook and exec chef I ever worked with was a former Force Recon Marine who never had to threaten anyone because his stare was sufficient to silence the entire kitchen. Somebody once asked him how many people he’d killed in Viet Nam, and he just looked at them and said, “You’ll never prove I was in Southeast Asia”. He kept the cleanest, most organized kitchen I’ve ever seen and did it without yelling or or bullying; if somebody wasn’t measuring up or pulling their weight, they were just gone, and he had a waiting list of people wanting to work in his kitchen.
That’s who I want to be.
Stranger
I really had no idea what to do. I suspect I could have said nice, friendly things and would have been targeted instantly. I certainly didn’t know what your “gentleman’s rules” were, but I have a better idea now.
I’ve never been a good bluffer in Poker and similar games. I’ve found the best strategy for me is to act like a drunken hobo so my opponents will leave me alone, then slyly observe them while they work on other people.
And Prof, you may have perceived me as self-confident, but irl I’m anything but! “Fake it till you make it.”
The thing is, in Mafia, it’s only one side that should be bluffing. As Town, you want people to have the correct impression of you, because you want to be thought Town. As Scum, you want people to have the wrong impression of you, because you also want to be thought Town.
And I’m certain that the version of the song I know was “Grubek”, but the All-Knowing Internet insists that it’s “Verbeck”.
Not ‘gentleman’s rules,’ just the way the game works. It was even discussed in the game thread.
Like Chronos said, it’s important for town to play genuinely. Any kind of disingenuous play must by definition be regarded as scummy or anti-town. It gets even worse in a game with power roles - random “drunken hobo” play may end up convincing a friendly power role to waste their ability on you when they might have otherwise found a scum player.
Meanwhile, scum know that you’re town. They know that your random behavior is going to create cover and buy them time. They may very well leave you alone, but not because you’re confusing them. It’s because they know you’re making yourself a liability.
Finally, remember: there are no extra points for surviving till the end. Mafia is a binary game - you win with your team or you lose with your team.