Spider-Man 3 opens at midnight

The emo thing was still a little baffling to me. It just seemed to come from way out of left field.

Spoilered for now on, to be safe:

[spoiler]There were several :rolleyes: moments. In particular, the “America, Fuck Yeah!” shot with the blatant juxtaposition against the American flag. WTF was that? Not to mention the old, wise, loving butler (I shall name him MacGuffin), who also happens to be a forensic specialist. He was completely nonexistent in the last two films.

I was enjoying it pretty well up until Peter went emo. Menocchio was spot on about the lack of characterization. Sandman wasn’t that interesting, and Topher Grace’s character was completely unsympathetic. I can see why they killed him. I wanted to care about Sandman, but they just didn’t give me enough. The final fight felt bogged down by all the characters. It’s more fun when it’s just Spidey vs. Foe.[/spoiler]

That said, Bruce Campbell was excellent.

Credit goes to James Cromwell for the most random, unimportant appearance.

Amazing how, out of all the hundreds of houses of worship in Manhattan, Brock is praying for Peter’s death in the same church where Peter is ridding himself of the symbiote, at the exact same time.

All the reasons people are saying they were disappointed with this movie, are the same kinds of reasons I don’t like superhero comic books.

I thought it was fun, and the unlikely coincidences and elaborately interwoven plot threads were par for the course with superhero stories, including the previous Spidey movies.

Ah well, to each their own.

The rock containing an alien lands less than 50 yards from Peter Parker, the alien decides to follow him around for a few days, the Sandman passes by the Spider-man rally, Harry gets amnesia and loses it at plot convenient moments, and that’s the coincidence you can’t buy?

Yes Bruce was - I really liked that bit in the movie. For Emo-Pete, when he pushed his bangs over, I almost shouted ‘Peter Petrelli!’. Also I think the audience was keeping a mental tab of how often the characters teared up.

Sam Raimi said in an interview that he has no problem making an “American Super Hero.”

I thought the movie proved that Kirsten Dunst must be a really big Hollywood player. It is hard to imagine that the producer and director thought, “We must get as much of Kirsten singing as we can in this movie.” Surely she demanded that she do it, no one else would have.

Remember all those unpleasant experiences you had to endure as a kid because a parent said they were good for you?

Spider-Man 3 helps you relive your childhood in all its castor-oil, vaccination and Sunday School glory. Thumbs down.

That’s nothing new. The original Spider-Man, which was released not too soon after 9/11, ended with a blatant shot of Spidey perched atop the Empire State Building next to a proudly waving American flag.

My wife and I saw it last night.

It was ok.

Did we really need Venom? Would Sandman not have been enough a villain for the movie? Why introduce Gwen Stacy? Why change major events from the first movie?

It seemed, by far, the weakest of the three movies.

I actually wasn’t really sure- so Peter and Mary-Jane didn’t end up together in the end? I thought it was ambiguous as to what would happen with their relationship.

Definitely thought it was the worst of the 3 (the first two I loved), but ultimately more a “Meh” than a “Yuck” (though I saw it for free, so that helped).

Too long. The jazz club scene was horrible. Gwen was unnecessary, MJ a downer and not as sympathetic as she needed to be, and Sandman was simply 1 villain too many. Excellent effects, and I like how they wrapped things up with Harry, but they simply bit off way more than they could chew.

It seemed obvious that nobody was sure whether this would be the last one or not (the jury’s still out, apparently), so they threw a ton in just in case, but still left some things dangling (particularly Dr. Connors) as a safety.

Bruce Campbell was awesome, but Stan Lee’s cameo was also the most gratuitous of the 3 he’s made in the series. Overall a bit of a letdown, but I’d still watch the action stuff again (when TNT eventually plays the film 3 times/weekend) and the first two still hold up quite well.

I thought it was good, but too dark. I think my favorite is definitely Spidey 2. Random thoughts:

There was a Spiderman movie *without *a wet T-Shirt scene with MJ? That is totally wrong!

Bryce Dallas Howard is much more attractive than I realized.

Elizabeth Banks is hot, but that hair style just doesn’t do it for her.

Thomas Haden Church was a great casting for the Sandman.

My take: Better than 1, not as good as 2.

I haven’t seen the movie yet, so I’m not sure what the second question refers to, but now that I think about it, having Gwen Stacy in the movies so far into the series is somewhat unusual, seeing as in the comic books, she played an important part in an event in Spider-Man’s life…that was already depicted in the first movie, with a different character, and a different outcome. Were the fans up in arms about that as they were the whole organic web-shooter thing?

Are we sure this was directed by Sam Raimi, cause this sure seemed to have a George Lucas-esque hokeyness to it.

The acting was good. Topher Grace in particular impressed me as Venom, but the rest fell victim to some terribly cheesey lines. Not that the Sandman had that problem. His lines consisted of “My daughter’s sick” and “WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH.” What a waste of a character and an actor.

As for the rest…[spoiler]The scene with the flag bothered me, but not nearly as much as Peter and Harry riding the goblin board together. :rolleyes: Yeesh was that bad. And the whole forgiveness theme was waaaay overdone. Sure it’s great that Peter can forgive the Sandman, but having a sick daughter is no excuse for causing large amounts of property damage, robbery, assault, attemped murder of Peter and Harry, kidnappiny Mary Jane, etc. It’s great that Harry was able to let go of his hatred of Peter thanks to the wise and poorly delivered words of his butler, but how about him whipping a pumpkin bomb into Harrys face and just walking away. Hell, the jazz bar apparently forgave Peter for chucking bouncers around and slapping down MJ. Makes sense since they also forgave MJ for leaving the stage midsong to dance with the very man who broke her heart and made her eat floor.

Nothing was developed either. We kind of got hints that Brock was a bit unhinged, but nothing to bring us up to him liking being evil. He got hints that Sandman wasn’t all bad, but that was never backed up. We got hints that the costume was kind of nasty, but that needed more.[/spoiler]All in all, the writing and the execution are what killed this movie for me. Not as good as 2. Not as good as 1. A bad finish to a great series.

Doesn’t anyone else have any love for J.K. Simmons? As usual, he stole whatever scene he was in. Bruce Campbell and J.K. Simmons were the high points in this movie.

Oh man, even people who loved the second one think this one is bad? You’re giving me the resolve to stick by my vow of never seeing another movie in this series after finding the second boringly similar to the first. Thanks guys!

Who did Bruce Campbell play? I just saw the film today but I don’t remember.

I thought it was way too long and just dragged on and on.

Oh and,

Just how long did all the events in the film take? Harry was in the explosion at the house and then a few scenes later when we see him, his face is all scarred from the blast. How did his face heal so quickly? I found that more unbelieavable than the alien black goo coming to earth.

If I’m not mistaken, the formula that gave the Green Goblin strength and agility (remember how he caught the basketball and the vase at the same time?) also gives him great healing abilities. Remember how quickly and well he healed from the fall. It isn’t just the armer that makes him the Green Goblin

Well. That one was all over the map, wasn’t it?

I liked it. It wasn’t really a very good movie, but I liked it anyway. At 2.5 hours’ running time or whatever, the decent bits added up to the equivalent of a reasonably entertaining short film, albeit chopped up and edited randomly into several other similar yet not-so-entertaining films. Kind of the cinematic equivalent of channel-surfing; it left me with that same sort of disjointed feeling.

Thoughts:

As with the character of Dr. Octopus, I was deeply impressed with how they were able to make the Sandman work so well as a plausibly intimidating onscreen villain. I also liked the fundamentally awkward way in which he uses his abilities at first, which makes a lot of sense-- after all, he’s made of sand. It’s neither an intuitive nor particularly elegant medium for supervillainy.
‘Venom’ worked pretty well, too, although I thought the amorphous crawling pseudopod-oozing symbiote was way more intimidating on its own. But I’ve always been of the opinion that the character is kind of stupid-looking anyway. Oooooh, it’s Spider-Man, except with a big goofy fang-filled mouth! Skeewy. They never actually got around to giving him the name ‘Venom’ in the film though, did they? I would have enjoyed hearing Ted Raimi’s naming suggestions.

Speaking of the Venom symbiote, I think the scriptwriters deserve some kind of recognition for providing an origin even less plausible than in the original comic. “You know, what with everything else going on in the film, we don’t really have the time to develop a backstory for this thing… oh, what the hell, let’s just drop it on him.”
I note that New York City continues its proud tradition of conducting incredibly dangerous scientific research in easily accessible areas without any safety protocols whatsoever. Clearly they learned their lesson from the last movie about the dangers of housing fusion reactors in Manhattan brownstones, as the matter-disintegrator array in this film is safely located behind a modest fence in the middle of a vacant lot. Did they ever even say what they were trying to achieve with that experiment, anyway? Was there any kind of goal, or were they just disintegrating sand for no reason?
Three movies in, and I still remain stubbornly unconvinced by Sam Raimi’s continued assertion that Kirsten Dunst is the modern cinematic ideal of feminine beauty. Oh, she’s fine-looking, but in a “say, that new bank teller is pretty cute” kind of way, not as a New York fashion model/actress. Regardless, I find her nasolabial grooves endearing.
This movie started to come off the rails for me right around the point where the detective walks up to the New York City Chief of Police and goes, “Remember the Parker murder case from two years ago?”
How the heck did the Green Goblin ever manage to keep his “thermal detonator” pumpkin bombs sorted separately from his “total disintegration” pumpkin bombs? It seems like it would be really easy to confuse the two.
Did I miss a scene, or did the entire subplot about Sandman’s daughter and her nonspecific terminal illness just never get resolved at all?
Did I miss a scene, or did Spider-Man never actually get around to stopping that runaway crane?
Venom: “Um… hey, Sandman… I thought we agreed that you were going to hang the hostage’s cab up in my web to lure Spider-Man. Why is there a dump truck up there instead?”

Sandman: “Ah, crap… Look, I got confused, what do you want from me? My eyes and brain are made of SAND!”
Butlers have a very strange code of professional conduct.