Did anyone else miss the “Liz’s dad is going to be the flying scrap collector”? Cause I did. Which mean that the decision to make Liz be black actually was thought out rather than just colour blind casting.
Which I wonder says what about me and other movie goers. 
One thing I’m curious about…who is actually on the Avengers as of Homecoming?
Iron Man. Vision… maybe Black Widow? Presumably War Machine.
Everyone else had left at the end of the Civil War.
There’s also Scarlet Witch. And technically Thor and Hulk, though who knows what will happen at the end of their movie in November. Doctor Strange and Black Panther will be officially part of the team next year as Infinity War begins, I imagine. That will be a crowded movie.
No, Scarlet Witch was on Cap’s side.
I thought they made up afterward, and all that mattered was who ran away. There were a bunch in the prison under the ocean, I figure they’re all still Avengers.
Nah, Agents of SHIELD has had invisible/cloaked planes all along, I think - certainly the last couple of seasons.
If Cap and the others are still “war criminals,” why did Happy make the comment about Cap’s new shield being in the transport ship?
I loved the final stinger. Chris Evans’ tight smile when he’s asks “How many more of these?” through is teeth was hilarious.
I’m talking who is REALLY on the team for Tony to have a press conference announcing a new member.
Thor and Hulk are stated as MIA in Civil War so why would they be included? I think Cap’s crew (Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, Ant-man, Falcon) are “Secret Avengers” after the escape from the Raft and wouldn’t be included. Tony’s clearly got a public crew and I don’t really think Dr. Strange or Black Panther are there yet.
Regarding the new shield for Cap Happy refers to-- Since Tony was showing working on a Captain America shield as early as the first Iron Man movie I don’t know how much you can read into that.
I think he said “prototype shield.” He might be referring to the one that Stark had stored with his stuff in Iron Man 2.
War Machine(I think he’s recovered enough), the Vision, and Black Widow.
Speaking of that, I’m really glad they had Tony essentially acknowledging that bringing Parker into the fight was a bad thing in his discussion with him about that.
Particularly the line “If Cap had wanted to lay you out he’d have laid you out.” and following it up by talking about how maybe he shouldn’t have brought him in. Well, maybe Tony can be sure Cap wouldn’t have hurt him and I’ll agree the Cap of the movies wouldn’t but that’s still a huge gamble and that fight also had a high powered Scarlet Witch who had already demonstrated having a difficult time controlling her powers and Bucky Barnes who was at least as strong and powerful as Cap and had far, far less self-control and was the World’s deadliest assassin.
I didn’t see it coming at all either. Part of that was based on race but also while his last name is repeatedly listed as “Toombs” which is what it was in the comics, though in those he’s a much, much older man, while Liz’s never is she’s clearly meant to be “Liz Allen” his first crush in high school.
I saw the movie on Friday, and realized who Liz’s father was just as Peter walked up to the door of their house.
I liked the movie, by the way. It was fun and I was glad they skipped the Spiderman origin story. And I thought Tom Holland was good in the role; he was plausible as a fifteen-year-old.
Not only did I not see it coming, when he answered the door my first reaction was he was holding her real family hostage.
That was our first thought too. I went from “holy shit how did he know about Peter?!?” to “omg it’s her dad!” in the span of about 2 second.
Was still a surprise to us and a GREAT twist
Just got back from a late showing. I was never much of a Spider-Man fan, since I always thought, comics-wise, that he was crazily over-exposed. But the good press the movie got led me to see it in the theater rather than wait for the DVD, and I was not disappointed (except in the post-credit scene. Funny, but it would have worked better with a post-that screen as actual payoff). I definitely did not expect Toomes to be Liz’s father, because I was thinking of her last name as Allen (though I suppose that sort-of echoes how the Green Goblin was Peter’s friend Harry Osborn’s father). DEFINITELY did not expect the surprise ending with Aunt May.
My favorite little touch was seeing the Lego Death Star model being progressively more and more complete in the background while they had a montage of Ned and Peter in Peter’s room after the suit gets taken from him.
I did not care at all for Zendaya’s character, it takes more than sarcasm to make a personality. The hint that they dropped that she’s really “MJ” isn’t all that welcome, either. In a movie that got so much right about Peter Parker’s personality, a sarcastic, artistic brainiac is kind of the opposite of the glamorous party girl that the comics “MJ” is.
Saw it last night and really enjoyed it. A fun summer movie. Michael Keaton made for a fantastic villain.
I did leave the theater thinking that if they wanted the Ramones for an end credit song they should have gone with this one.
Saw it this afternoon. When I heard the classic animated Spider-Man TV theme get the full orchestral treatment, I knew we were in for a great ride. A great return to the character’s roots as a high school kid, not quite sure what to do with the powers he’s been granted. Even Peter wanting to join the Avengers mirrors classic comic Spider-Man applying to join the Fantastic Four. (And since Fox can’t make a good F4 movie, but is too proud to ever return the IP back to Marvel, we’re never going to see the latter happen.)
I’ll admit to initially being off-put by the extremely limited scale of Peter’s milieu. I had gotten too used to the world shaking and galaxy girdling of the Avengers and Guardians. Going back to high school was underwhelming at first, until I realized that was exactly what they were going for - Peter Parker returning to being the friendly, neighborhood Spider-Man - and then the movie really clicked for me.
Michael Keaton made for a great villain. Smart enough to figure out Peter’s secret. Malevolent enough for us to believe that he would kill Peter. Sympathetic enough for us to believe that Peter would still save him. Plus I literally did not see that twist coming.
Finally, the Cap cameos were great. Including the very last one.
I’m going to minorly disagree about the ‘classic’ Spiderman theme.
I was happy to hear the street violin playing it in the original Toby MacGuire version, but it really is not a great piece of music (not surprising, given it’s origin as a animated TV show theme song (they can’t all be Jonny Quest)), and I think he needs a new theme.
We saw it yesterday. Really enjoyed the movie, except for the action scenes. That close-up, smash-cutted style of action filming is just a mess. You can’t tell what’s going on, you get no sense of real danger, and it’s all just noise and flashes. Will someone please hire a proper action director next time?
Also, try to be consistent with the spider powers. In one scene he’s holding the Staten Island ferry together with his own strength, and in another he can barely lift a container off of himself.
He had the Tony suit to help when holding the ferry together, but I agree that he should have been able to get out of the rubble easier. I guess that was his realizing his own strength moment.