Call me stupid, but I don’t get the ending… why did Peter basically tell that girl he didn’t love her when he obviously does?
right before turns down mj, he is standing over uncle ben’s tombstone and in a voice over parker says something to the effect of “everyone I love will die.”
mods, you may want to add an exclamation point or two to the title of this thread, this is a huge spoiler.
doh, “right before he turns down mj”
yet another reminder to take advantage of the handy preview feature.
You’ve been a superhero for about six minutes when your arch-nemesis discovers your secret identity and nearly kills your last remaining relative (oh, by the way – your ineptitude at being a superhero got your second-to-last remaining relative killed). Do you really want to take the chance that no one else will discover your identity and go after your girlfriend? I mean, she’s cute and all, but she’d be a lot less cute dead.
(Plus the fact that she clearly knows after that kiss, but I’m sure we won’t find that out until the last scene of the sequel.)
He is afraid that anyone close to him will be put in danger.
And, he is shy around MJ. He is never able to tell her how he feels.
This is more suited to Cafe Society. I’ll move it there for you.
DrMatrix - General Questions Moderator
See, that’s true love. He loves her so much that he’s willing to be without her to protect her. If they had both been better actors it would have been a poignant moment. And… what stankow said about the sequel.
Nitpick…well, actually, semi-major correction. It was his indifference as a civilian and amateur wrestler that got Uncle Ben killed. He became a superhero because of the guilt of that moment.
But, yeah, that’s why he told MJ he could only be friends - he was afraid more would get her killed.
On the other hand, if MJ knew who he was, I’m sure she’d gladly take the chance. If I were in her place, I would.
It gets worse: your room-mate is determined to seek revenge on your alter-ego because of the death of his father. Talk about piling on the angst!
Can anyone imagine Kirsten Dunst becoming a successful New York actress, as the comic-book Mary Jane did? Julia Stiles might have been a slightly better coice; her background as a dancer makes her a slightly more plausible Broadway star, plus she’s done more “doomed romance” movies.
I kinda wish they’d gone the Ultimate version and had her more of a fellow nerd. Makes more sense.
Never fear, the comic site says they married in 1987 or thereabouts.
http://www.kingfeatures.com/features/comics/spidermn/about.htm
Yeah, but they’ve been separated for a few years now.
I still don’t get this. How could you be mad about that if your dad was A) a psycopathic mass-murderer (the GREEN GOBLIN no less,) and B) Treated you like crap all the time anyway?
I personally think that Peter decided he wanted to be just friends with Mary Jane after realising that he was the third guy she’d thrown herself at in the time the movie had taken place. Sheesh, girlie, have the gumption to stand on your own for a day or two at least! (Yes, that’s right, I’m calling Mary Jane a ho! AND a dingbat!)
Well, their marriage started to have problems when she died. (Don’t worry, she’s better now.)
–Cliffy
You know what bothers me about the “everybody I love will die” excuse for no Peter-MJ hookup? Based on the fact that the Green Goblin used her (in the scene where Spidey had to choose between her and the box full of young’uns), people already know she’s important to him.
Am I the only one who sees this?
a) No one but Peter knew Norman was the Goblin (in the comics, Harry found Norman’s body in the Goblin outfit at the scene of the death, but the movie is a little different.)
b) They were a disfunctional family for sure, but in his own twisted way, Norman only wanted what’s best for Harry. And there’s a familial bond some people just can’t break.
Er. So no one took the costume off when they got hold of the body? Did the funeral home just put a suit over the whole costume+mask?
Point B was no problem for me to believe, however.
Spider/Pete redressed Norman in his street clothes or pajamas or something before laying him in his bed. I assume he destroyed the Goblin outfit. Harry walked in, saw Spidey at his dad’s bedside, and concluded Spidey must have killed Norman. And judging by the 2 gaping wounds in Norman’s stomach, Harry must have thought Spidey had resorted to using machettes as his weapon of choice.
Movie Version: Spider/Pete redressed Norman in his street clothes or pajamas or something before laying him in his bed. I assume he destroyed the Goblin outfit. Harry walked in, saw Spidey at his dad’s bedside, and concluded Spidey must have killed Norman. And judging by the 2 gaping wounds in Norman’s stomach, Harry must have thought Spidey had resorted to using machettes as his weapon of choice.
Comic Version: Using horrendous judgement, after Norman impaled himself, Spidey walked away, leaving the body behind for anyone to find. that anyone happened to be Harry who’d been following the fight. Harry then donned the costume later as the second Green Goblin.
Apologies in advance if this posts twice…
Hrm. My suspension of disbelief just doesn’t have the tensile strength of Spidey’s webs, clearly. Given that webhead was last seen by an apparent block party who just happened to be on the bridge at the time (I could’ve done without the post-911 glurge, Raimi; no biscuit), all of whom witnessed him tussling with Gobby before they retired to a more private location to finish things; and that the glider would be found with its prongs all gooey, and any number of other factors, I really doubt that the Goblin’s secret identity would remain secret for very long.
Personally, I buy that Harry pretty much knew who his dad was, if not before the death than within a day afterwards. The dysfunctional family bond just snapped him, that’s all.
Come on, think this through. The Green Goblin rides around on an Osbourne Industries prototype flying glider, wearing their exo-suit, eliminating enemies of Osbourne Industries, and no one pieces things together?
Mild-mannered Peter Parker shows superhuman abilities in beating up a kid at school and shortly thereafter Spiderman shows up and no one puts two and two together? Not even MJ?
You pretty much have to suspend your disbelief or the whole comic book/superhero thing just doesn’t work.
As for the glider being found – I’m sure SM could just have chucked it in the East River.
No one has even mentioned the one thing that confirms that Spiderman the Movie is a complete fantasy – for some reason Peter Parker thought that there was some place in NYC where he could treat a girl to a cheeseburger for $7.40.