Finagle: The Goblin also slaughtered the board members of Oscorp, before the sale (and Norman’s coerced resignation) were made public. This most likely convinced people he was just engaging in random acts of violence, since there wouldn’t seem to be an ulterior motive for this action.
The second one is a more valid point, the webs would seem to be the clincher. Still, it happened once, and most people probably dismissed the more bizzare elements of the fight (Peter dodging a punch he shouldn’t have known was coming) as their imaginations acting up.
As for the OP: Him turning her down does help protect her. Everyone who knows him knows he’s crazy about her, but she’s an obvious target to a complete stranger if she’s his girlfriend. If you have to know Parker personally to understand her value as a hostage, she’s less likely to die.
Oh, I dunno. I manage to be plenty entertained even when my belief-suspension is all in tattered ruin.
MJ’s general cluelessness I had no problem with–easily explained by the simple fact of her having squirrels nesting in her head. (And THAT could be the spinoff of an interesting new superheroine–just imagine if one of those squirrels got radioactive!)
I take it, then, that the newspaper strip, despite being listed as by Stan Lee, is not considered canonical? Because in the strip, there’s been some marital friction, certainly, but never even approaching the point of separation.
And Bryan? What’s so unbelievable about Dunst playing an actress? I mean, she is, after all, an actress!
What with the who now? This wasn’t in the version I saw. Did you see an advance screening or something? When I saw it, it went pretty much straight from the Green Goblin getting killed and saying “Don’t tell Henry” to the funeral with Henry saying “I’m gonna get that Spider-Man” (or whatever the line was.) He either knows his dad is the Green Goblin and Spider-Man killed him, or he doesn’t know his dad is the Green Goblin, and thus couldn’t have any idea that Spider-Man killed him. It just doesn’t make sense.
Nope, there was a scene in which Harry sees Peter standing next to Norman’s body. Harry reaches for a gun from a drawer and points it towards Spidey, but he’s gone. Very much in the movie, at least the three times I’ve seen it.
Those guys on the bridge were not added after 9/11. They were always a part of the movie. I always think of New Yorkers as the type that stick together when the going gets really tough, or if a man on a flying wing dressed like a power ranger is threatening a bunch of kids, a hot babe, and a guy in leotards. You’ll notice Raimi didn’t remove any of the images of the WTC either to cotton to those who think erasing history is best.
And I don’t see where the connection was made between Gobby and Normie. A bunch of guys on a bridge see the Goblin and Spidey fighting, then they leave. Goblin must be Norman Osborn? I don’t get it.
But yeah, Harry could have figured out that dad was Goblin on his own, but there was nothing in the movie to suggest it that I saw.
chronos - Once, a few years ago, there was a crossover event that involved both the strip and the comic book. This is the only time I can remember the two ever having anything to do with one another. In fact, during Spidey’s alien suit days in the comic book (in which he donned a new black and white costume), the comic strip had him wearing the traditional blue & red costume.
So, although Pete and MJ are having marital difficulties in the strip, they are most definitely living separately in the book.
Sorry to not add to the OP, but it’s been sufficiently answered. Pete believes he is protecting his loved ones by hiding his identity. Simple as that.
Harry goes to gander at Pa’s corpse after Spidey vanishes after being spotted. It’s going to be fairly obvious that pop did not die of a heart attack, since an infarction doesn’t usually cause big holes punched through the abdomen (caveat: I am not a physician). So, the coroner is probably not going to rule it death by natural causes.
Papers the next day are going to have screaming headlines about Spiderman and Green Goblin having a ruckus, and Spidey saving a bunch of kids in the process. (There’ll be smaller sidebar human-interest stories about how the crew of the boat that helped has started calling the skipper Boatman, and how the Bridge Folk called it “the best block party ever.”) Just like their last public appearance, both costumed fellows exited stage left. Public curiosity is very high.
There’s a smaller non-front-page story about local billionaire dead under mysterious circumstances. Harry may or may not report the thing about Spiderman last seen manhandling dad’s body–I find it more believable that he did, and police just brushed that right the hell aside (since after all, Spidey was clearly seen kicking Goblin’s butt–or vice versa–after saving aforementioned kids and entertaining the block party that very same night), thus only fuelling Harry’s grief-fuelled bitter desire for sequel revenge.
The connection here is that the person Harry wants to star in a sequel with was seen, by many witnesses who would be happily vocal about it (it’s bragging rights, by god, if I’d witnessed some superhumans beating each other up, I’d milk that in the office for weeks), in combat with Green Goblin. When Harry next sees him, he’s putting down dad’s bloody corpse. Who was it that the papers had reported him in mortal combat with earlier that same night? Now, MJ has squirrels nesting in her skull, and Harry probably does too, but surely some investigative authorities only have field mice in theirs.
Definitely. I didn’t see it the first time, but my friend claimed to see it twice. But he’s insane and I didn’t believe him. Second viewing I did see the WTC in a closeup reflection in Spidey’s eyes. It’s the same shot as in some commercials, but the commercials have removed the reflection. As far as twice, I can’t confirm that.
Ok, Drastic, I can buy that. Makes sense to me. About Harry. Not about the New Yorkers on the bridge. they were al stuck on a bridge while explosions are going off. I’d get outta my car too and watch what’s going on.
Max Carnage wrote, re the version in the comic books:
Waaaaaait a minute … in the recent Saturday morning Spiderman cartoon show, the young Osborne called himself the hobgoblin, to distinguish himself from the green variety I suppose.
Actually, the biggest unresolved threat to Spidey’s identity is the wrestling promoter and any member of his staff who sees Peter’s face. They even named him at the match! I find it unlikely that they wouldn’t come forward when “Spider-Man” became a folk hero. They even have Peter’s real name, since he signed that release form. The promoter certainly has no motive to keep Peter’s secret, since he perceives Peter as a spiteful twerp who didn’t lift a finger to stop the armed robber.
In the comic book version, Peter keeps his ID secret from his TV show employers, which is strange and invites all kinds of employee benefit/tax problems, but at least it meant no-one knew who he was when Uncle Ben got killed and Spidey went vigilante.
One comic story of the early nineties or so features a photographer who walks in on Peter in mid-costume change and snaps a photo of him. This sets off a wild chase in which the photog’s camera is eventually trashed. It ends with him knowing what Spider-Man’s real face looks like, but contemplating the chances of finding him in a city of 8 million.
The cover of this issue is unique in that it isn’t artwork, but an actual photograph of a man in the middle of a costume change.
In the comic book, Harry becomes the second incarnation of the Green Goblin. Years later, a guy finds one of the original Goblin’s hideouts (complete with costumes, Goblin Bombs™, and glider) and becomes the Hobgoblin. He dyed the green parts, created a new yellowish mask and an orange hood to differentiate himself from the Green Goblin.
I won’t tell you who it was that became the Hobgoblin, in case you ever read the comics. That was the Big Mystery™ for about three years in the comics.
at least on Hobgoblin was some other dude, i think we was a former Jack-O-Lantern or some such. And then a Hobgoblin went crazy and started sprouting religious nonsense, and there was Demigoblin, who was created from Hobgoblin via some wicked Voodoo. here are links:
No WTC scenes were cut from the movie. Look at the closeup of Spidey as he looks at the camera then quickly turns away to swing off. It’s in his eyes, left there as a tribute. Don’t ask me for a cite, just watch the movie. I didn’t believe it either until I watched it the second time and there it was.
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Greatest City in the World.
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My question, since we’re off the OP, is what happened to the spider? It’s unanswerable, I know, but it still bothers me.
It bites Peter, falls to the floor and crawls away. Leaving a HUGE window for other Spider-People. I mean it did seem quite agressive and it was in a place with lots of people, surely there might be another bite or two.
As for the crowds of New Yorkers on the bridge I don’t see any reason to think this was added since it’s often a bit in NYC movies. Think Ghostbusters II. … Ok, I’m not good at movie trivia, but that’s the way people like to portray the city in general.
