I dunno, J.K. Simmons was basically perfect and would be a damn hard act to follow. On the other hand, Jameson is kind of a big part of Spider Man.
On the gripping hand, newspapers are dinosaurs of another age,
He could be the producer of a cable news show.
Check out Marc Maron in GLOW for a perfect casting of J Jonah Jameson.
If they want to modernize it he should be running an online news thing like TMZ.
I’ve just got back from seeing it. Something I haven’t seen addressed yet - at one point, MJ said something along the lines of ‘I’m very observant’, and there were a few shots of her looking quizzical at Peter’s absence during key moments.
I think she suspects.
More generally, I loved it. One of my absolute favourite MCU films. Loved the recurring Cap joke (and yes, we stayed to the end - I laughed out loud). I liked that there wasn’t an existential threat.
I’m not totally sure how I feel about Spider-Man having Iron-Man style tech and AI built into the suit - has this ever been the case in the comics? I was hoping he’d end up with a simpler, non AI version by the end.
I saw it last night - really enjoyed it.
One thing I might have missed - did they explain why the plain of awesome, incredibly powerful technology was being flown unprotected? If there’s that much cool stuff on it, would it warrant, say, Iron Man as an escort?
Digital is the new Analog:
It was being flown in stealth mode, and a decoy plane was being flown along a different route at the same time. Presumably Stark felt that this would be sufficient protection. He might have also felt that if Iron Man was detected flying along with the stealth plane and being nowhere near the decoy plane, that would have attracted trouble rather than avoided it.
Agreed - and I think she’s more interested in Peter than she lets on (she hangs out in detention, when she doesn’t have to - when Peter is there; she’s also well aware of what clubs Peter has left, and when).
In the first Civil War event, Spider-Man sided with Tony Stark, and got a fancy armored suit that was basically the Iron Man armor with a spider theme. The suit Tony shows Peter at the end of the movie, when Peter turns down the Avengers job, was basically that suit. However, currently in the comics, Peter’s become a tech start up billionaire, and loaded his Spidey suit with tons of advanced gadgets, which seems a pretty direct inspiration for the suit he wears for most of the movie.
To make it even more convoluted he was inspired to do all that because Doc Ock controlled his body for a year (and was still a hero!). Comics be crazy! ![]()
Would the FBI sting have worked if they’d been able to carry out their plans without Spidey butting in? Beats me. Would Tony Stark absolutely positively believe that the FBI sting would have worked if they’d been able to carry out their plans without Spidey butting in? Hell to the yes. The latter is what determines Tony’s reaction to the event.
As for the plane at the end, that situation is different for a few reasons that have already been pointed out (e.g.: Ferry Battle: Spidey blows off Tony and goes in without backup; Plane Battle: Happy blows off Ned when he tries to relay a message from Peter.) It’s also different for a more subjective reason – Ferry Battle: Tony thinks “I’ve got this; why’d you have to screw it up?”; Plane Battle: Tony thinks “Damn, I got caught with my pants down and Spidey saved the day.”)
Another issue is that it’s not just Tony Stark’s opinion on Peter Parker that changes. There’s also Tony Stark’s opinion on Tony Stark. In this movie, we’re seeing this all from Peter Parker’s point of view but we’ve seen Tony Stark enough in other movies to know he’s got some pretty big problems of his own. He may have come to the realization that he shouldn’t be holding other people to a standard he hasn’t been able to live up to.
Especially since Peter is still a kid. (I can just see Pepper asking Tony how he would have handled getting all that power at Peter’s age.)
due to Spiderman-movie fatigue, I skipped this in the theaters, and I hate Redbox, so I was going to skip it overall and just hope everything else made sense in context in later movies.
But a friend told me I HAD to see it, so I killed a few hours/few beers watching his Blu-ray; then I went out and bought it.
Now, I am NOT a comic book person, so I can give a shit about which villain was which person, who did what to whom in some particular iteration or “Universe”/alternate history/whatever. This goes for any superhero movie. Period, dot, full-stop.
This was one of the funniest Marvel movies yet, and also one of its more nuanced. Michael Keaton delivers yet again (he was outright robbed over Birdman due to the Academy’s Sci-fi ghetto); hell I was rooting for The Vulture more often than not, and not because Holland’s Spiderman was in any way lacking.
Holland nailed it as “dorky, overly enthusiastic kid with a good heart,” and his “learning curve” scenes had me laughing so hard I almost peed myself; of special note was landing in the aluminum shed (I can just imagine the epic battle he had with the lawnmower and rake), yanking the treehouse right out of the tree, and his googly-eyed mask scaring the two little campers into trying to Scooby-Doo their way right through the tent walls.
I think RDJ’s Tony Stark scenes were a little “all over the map,” in terms of tone, but in a meta-sense, and following the events of Captain America: Civil War, I also realized that Tony’s now leading the Avengers, and dealing with the Sokovia Accords/U.N./Secretary Ross, so his seemingly odd changes in “tone” when he appears is altogether understandable. His “real” scene, when he was (literally and emotionally) “100% Present-In-The-Moment” was the ferry scene, and the subsequent dressing-down of Peter.
It’s a good coming-of-age story in and of itself, it dovetails nicely with the established MCU canon (Tony, of all people, trying to help/mentor Peter avoid all the mistakes he made), sets up all kind s of neat possibilities for future movies to build upon (Tony should get Adrian Toomes out on work release, and put him and his gang to work developing new tech for the Avengers!)…yup.
Good movie.
This was not only a worthy addition to the MCU, it was one of their better offerings.
Marvel has been knocking it out of the park lately with their villains. I couldn’t even tell you who the bad guys were in Iron Man 2 and 3 or Thor 1 and 2, but Killmonger, Vulture, Thanos and even Hela have been amazing.
I watched this movie this weekend on Netflix. Really enjoyed it, and see that the next Spiderman movie is just coming out. I might go see it at the theater.
Peter’s aunt May has gotten quite the upgrade. Her WTF line at the end of the movie was funny. I will want to see the conclusion of that scene.
I actually watched the movie twice and the second time remembered to sit through the forever credits. It was interesting that Michael Keaton’s character would not give Spider-man up. Is he saving him for himself, or does he feel he owes Peter something for saving his life?
Loved Peter’s discussions with his suit. His suit’s advice to kiss the girl was a bit strange coming from a computer. It was a throwback to the first movie I guess when Spider-man was also hanging upside down when he did his kiss.
Where does his suit have the room for all the tech it is carrying, and to energize it? lol.
Not so strange coming from a computer designed by Tony Stark, though. ![]()
It’s a sci fi AI, it might as well be a person.