Spider-man: No Way Home - Seen it thread (open spoilers)

I decided to figure this out, and the below webpage clarifies when each movie and TV series is set. WandaVision was set in late 2023, and the rest of the TV series and movies we’ve seen since are set in 2024. Aside from Black Widow of course.

Enjoyed it (except for the super-nerd sitting close to me who kept cackling and commenting (not too loudly, but still) as various characters showed up.

Main complaint is that Tom Holland has gotten a bit old to be a high school senior. He often still looks fresh-faced, but there were times he looked 25 (or older). Was always going to be problem with his movies so far apart in real-time but one maybe a year for him (since he was snapped for five).

I liked that he decided not to force himself back into Ned and MJ’s lives, but the romantic in me is hoping for a “Raggedy Man I remember you, and you are late for my wedding!” moment.

BTW, I’ve been going to movies since the theaters reopened in Autumn 2020 and noticed that even for the big movies, the audience was very small. This movie was the biggest crowd I’ve seen since then. (I have to admit it was nice to be the only person in my row and not even have anyone in the row ahead of me but part of the theatrical experience is watching the movie with strangers.)

Yeah, I love that, but I guess I’m willing to postpone that emotional high (global pandemic ‘n’ all…). Hey, at least we finally get to see big movies on big screens!

What I did with Spidey (and Bond) is check each theater at each time to find an almost-empty showing. Thursday, everything was pretty full, so I went Friday afternoon… and there was one other couple in the back of the theater. I love to sit front and center anyhow.

I took it to be more that people don’t remember Peter Parker, not that he didn’t exist. (similar to how it worked in the comics–people remember Spiderman unmasking but couldn’t remember who it was–it was just some guy. And the magic involved kept people from digging deeper, because “it didn’t matter”)
He’s taking the GED because he didn’t go back to the science school to finish senior year. Someone might ask Ned “hey who sat next to you in lab class?”…he’d remember that he had someone next to him in lab, but just couldn’t recall his name. Might even remember going over to his apartment to hangout but the granular Peter stuff and definitely the Spiderman stuff would be kind of fuzzy. Maybe even he’d remember helping Spiderman with some stuff but the details were fuzzy.

MJ still wears the necklace that Peter gave her…but probably doesn’t recall how she got it.

Magic is weird.

Anyone else almost break down when Aunt May died? I know Peter’s character thrives on loss and guilt, but I assumed he just had an unmentioned Uncle Ben moment of his own.

I really liked how he ditched the Stark Industries Spider suits and just made one of his own with May’s trusty old Singer. Of course, the suit is a perfect skintight fit with nary a wrinkle.

So the Strange trailer

Is that What If Dr Strange at the end?

Which means Ultron, Killmonger and the Stones can come back…and i think What If establishes the Stones dont ‘work as well’ in other timelines so. Strange can get a depowered time stone back

Sure looked, and sounded, like it. Plus Shuma-Gorath, who is presumably the Portal Tentacles that kept showing up in What If…?.

Oh, my review…good, not great. Overstuffed, overlong.

May’s final scene was great though. They really changed up that trope some… though when she spoke of responsibility i knew she was doomed.

But I liked Wandavision, Loki, and Hawkeye more then the film.

Nitpick…Osborne is definitely stronger and tougher because of the Goblin treatment (and the fight scene was great, he is supposed to be Spideys greatest villain)…but his head is not made of adamantium.

Very enjoyable though. First movie Ive seen since Endgame. And man the previews i saw for other films looked like shit.

Edit: I suspect the next time we see Spidey-Holland, it will be a surprise cameo after not seeing him for a few years,

And we’ll all say: “Who is that?”

I just watched a video with some highlights from the movie. I didn’t clearly remember it, but, yes, during the train fight the train at one point is very clearly flying through the middle of the Grand Canyon, and that’s apparently where Spider-Man does his Math-Beats-Magic takedown of Doctor Strange, and Doctor Strange is left suspended in the middle of Mirror Grand Canyon.

One thing that kind of stuck with me is that we got a Mobius trailer at my showing (first movie since FFH I’ve seen in a theater). I am completely unfamiliar with Mobius but I noticed that one of the buildings said OSCORP. And then in NWH Osborne says “there’s no Oscorp here” or similar. Oversight or Mobius takes place not “here” in whatever Earth the MCU is?

I liked it ok. I didn’t love it. I think parts of it were just top notch but the movie, like most of the pandemic fare, fell short and probably due to the pandemic in some ways. I rewatched all the Garfield and Tobey ones recently and I hated every second of them. They didn’t age well even though I liked the ones I saw at the time of their release… They were poorly acted and directed. Seeing the two other S-M here? They were so … amazing, for lack of a better word. I’d love to see a S-M 4 or 3 starring these two with these writers and directors.

I’d put it 3rd for the Holland S-M for me. And definitely behind Into The Spiderverse for the whole meta thing. But I don’t regret going or anything.

Morbius, not Mobius, though I’m not a comics reader so the character isn’t familiar to me.

And it’s possible that it’s not the same universe as the one with the Avengers in it.

Morbius takes place in Sony’s alt-verse, with the Venom movies, not the MCU. In that universe, so far the only superbeing is Venom (and other symbiote off-shoots).

ETA: actually, the second Venom movie introduced another random superbeing, with the implication that there are secretly other superbeings in their universe. Anyway, Venom and Morbius are not set in the MCU.

The mid-credit cookie in NWH was Eddie Brock/Venom from that universe, who were very explicitly only visiting the MCU due to the runaway spell, and then returned to their own, non-MCU universe.

Ahh. Ok. So that clears that up. MoRbius having Oscorp doesn’t contradict what NO said to May.

When Disney gobbles up Sony too this is all going to be untangled with licensing, I hope. (Assuming they will gobble them up like they gobbled everything else up)

I think it’s more likely that Disney buys back the rights to Spider-Man and whatever other characters Sony owns.

On the Morbius front, did I see Michael Keaton in the trailer and was that as The Vulture?

Yes, and unconfirmed, at least according to IMDb. I would imagine Keaton is playing Toomes, though, since there’s not a big overlap in Marvel actors playing different characters. IMDb has Keaton listed in the cast, but no character name.

Yep.

So he’s also playing Batman in a couple of upcoming DC projects. I can’t believe we are getting Keaton as Batman again.

Except for a little bit of Venom - showing that the forget-Peter spell wasn’t perfect - and maybe setting up an opponent for Holland/Spiderman.