Was Tobey Maguire channeling Sam Raimi or just taking his lead in playing Peter Parker. :dubious:
Huh?
The sequence where we see Doc Oct’s arms the first time gave me the creeps…it may be too strong for little kids! :eek:
Sorry, I meant his brother Ted!! :smack:
Having seen the film again, I’m still enchanted.
SuperNova wrote:
Never explained, to my satisfaction. Watching it the first time, I assumed that it would turn out that Tritium would turn out to have an easily-trackable signature. Nope. Spider-Man just shows up.
El Kabong wrote:
Not only that, but I thought the rest of the staff, who had already appeared in the first film, seemed to make the most of their few lines of dialogue – Robbie Robertson, Betty Brant, I mean.
Harborwolf wrote:
Seems to me they have to plan for how many films they can get through before the franchise turns to shit. Maybe they can pull off a coup and foment a return to the film serial, but most likely they’ll get to the third movie at most before they lose their original director and actors and become a straight-to-landfill prospect. Every movie they manage to drag the franchise out to before it turns to shit is a gift which must be respected. As such, there is no room for fucking around. They need to return to the Goblin, but since they don’t have the luxury that the comics had of dwelling on a rehash of the same villian, they need to mix him in with somebody else. Sandman is possible now in a way he never was before, but I’m wary of a jump straight to Venom, even as much as I’d love to see them do The Saga of the Alien Costume. That skips a whole lot, and frankly, the spawn of Venom nearly ruined Spider-Man for me, and a lot of others.
Kiros wrote:
In the comics, he did get pretty cool eventually. He eschewed the green tights for white suits, shades and a Roy Orbison haircut.
After twenty years, I still can’t get enough of it.
The first movie was much worse. The only line that made me cringe in this one was, “Advanced science.” Even that could be dismissed as comic-book-like. Way better than, “If somebody told you I was an ordinary teen, somebody lied.” Yeah, asshole, people are going around spreading a vicious rumor that you’re not Spider-Man.
As my wife said, “Everybody knows you use baking soda on fusion fires.”
My Darn Snake Legs wrote:
This is an issue that used to come up in our Marvel Super Heroes RPG game. “Why, if I have Shift-X strength, can’t squish my fingers in somebody’s face like it was mad of peanut-butter?” Somehow, the fact that he can do six points of damage with static electricity prevents it. Nobody knows why.
Amp wrote:
In fact, she’d have made a better Gwen Stacy. Dunst is the girl-next-door-cum-supermodel. MJ was the supermodel-cum-girl-next-door.
Second Star to the Right wrote:
I didn’t read comics as a child until well after the influence of The Superfriends and the Superman Movie. In my mind, every superhero was bulletproof. One day, I read a Spider-Man comic and was surprised that he was worried about getting shot. It occurred to me then that he wasn’t bulletproof, but was out there risking himself for others anyway. I never gave a damn for Superman since.
Classic JJJ. MMMMM, good.
Bryan Ekers wrote:
As was the subject of my first attempt at a web page. Somehow, the Wolverine Uber Alles crowd on this board remained unconvinced.
RandMcNally wrote:
I was sure it wasn’t sure just as I was explaining to The Wife during a second viewing that Connors was supposed to be missing an arm. Suddenly, it was obvious that he had the right arm of his coat pinned up.
re: finding Doc Oct’s place
Since he had MJ with him… maybe she sang “Oh where oh where has my Spiderman gone? Oh where oh where could he be?” and Spidey’s doglike hearing picked it up?
Am I mixing toons?
Anyways, maybe he used his Spidey Love senses to home in on MJ.
A secret compartment in my ring I fill, with a Spiderman Super Energy pill. Ruff!
Oh, man, YOU are a cruel, sick person
This movie felt like a compilation of inferior outtakes from the first movie. Good fight scenes but overall it dragged and felt kind of perfunctory. Doctor Octopus seemed indifferent about everything, which kind of clashed with the ferocity you saw when he fought Spiderman. The Green Goblin was a much better villain.
I was hoping for a sequel as good as X-Men 2. I didn’t get it. Not bad by any means, but I’m surprised at how much people love this.
Oh yeah, the music sucked too. Every song that popped up during the movie made me cringe.
I didn’t get the cake scene either, but I was also wondering if there was some significance to Henry Jackson (the kid helping Aunt May pack). They spent a lot of time talking about how much he’s grown, who he was, etc., for a kid who’s only in the movie for a few seconds. Is he a character in the comic books?
When Doc Ock tied Spider-Man up and brought him back to Harry, Spidey just laid there for a while, waiting for Harry to unmask him. As soon as he was unmasked, he sits up and breaks free. Do you think Spidey wanted Harry to know he was before he broke free? Because obviously, he was capable of leaving before Harry took his mask off. My friends are trying to convince me that Spidey was unconcious and only woke up after getting unmasked.
I have the soundtrack to the movie, and I love most of the songs on it. Listening to the CD relays the scenes in the movies really well.
Doc Ock’s hideout is in the wreckage of the lab where the accident occured.
Can’t be, Otto’s lab was nowhere near the water.
What does that have to do with anything? St. Patricks (where the wedding was) is no where near city hall (where we see her running past the foutain) Yet MJ managed to run 50 blocks in half a second.
SO it’s possibile the other back end of Otto’s lab was on the water.
I’m pretty sure I liked it. I’m very rarely sure of my opinion on a movie, but it was great entertainment and good fun.
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Yeah, but on the other hand, why is Peter Parker selling his photos to the Bugle in the first place? Wouldn’t other papers be interested in buying them? Could there possibly be a newspaper w/ a worse attitude toward his alter-ego? It boggles the mind.
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Because, if he worked for someone with a strong connection to reality, then they’d figure out his secret identity inside of a week.
And he might be entertaining to be around, too.
Well, the thing about Peter is that his angst, guilt and self-loathing have turned him into a masochist, which compels him to seek abuse in the person of J. Jonah (plus he may be subconsciously hoping Jonah will burn a swastika into his ass; I can’t be certain). Had Peter a more healthy psyche, he’d have tried out for one of the ESU sports teams, excelled at it, and become a professional athlete, earning more than enough money for himself and his aunt.
Agreed.
And I believe he actually said “LOOK OUT!”
Brilliant. I just saw this movie about an hour ago and I thought it was absolutely amazing.
- Peter Wiggen
I thought it was great, better than the original. The old cliche is that hero/spy movies succeed or fail on the quality of the villain. DeFoe was good, but the Green Goblin looked like something out of the Japanese Karate/Sci-Fi movies parodied on MST3K. Molina was great at showing the conflict within Doc Ock, and the CGI character work is the best I’ve seen apart from Gollum. They managed to give the arms a kind of personality, like a cross between serpents and HAL 9000. Ock’s movements seemed natural and cohesive within the environment, they obviously took the time to get it right.
For some reason the Mary Jane character doesn’t really work for me. Don’t know if it is Dunst or the writing, but I find her annoying rather than attractive. Bring on Gwen Stacy (preferably played by Keira Knightley).
I am still undecided about it. It seemed different from the first but I just don’t know if it was different as in “better”. There were things I just didn’t get the point of including (like the landlord’s daughter - btw, did she ever change her clothes?). Spidey sure was angstier in this one and the whole business of his losing his powers just being in his head didn’t sit right with me.
Re: Kirsten Dunst as MJ. I don’t have a problem with her as MJ, but I have a problem with 2 things;
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Do we really need to have gratuituous “wet t-shirt” nipple moments in every film? (Guys that’s rhetorical, you don’t really need to answer it.)
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With as much money as Ms. Dunst is making, why can’t she get those teeth fixed? Her veneers only cover the incisors so when she smiles big during a close up you can see the yellower teeth in the back and her canines are crooked. My teeth are definitely not perfect but if I were a young attractive actress I would have spent the money to get those fixed before doing another movie with lots of smiling close ups, no matter how much I fear dentists. She even looks like she holds back on the smiles a bit because she’s conscious of her appearance.